Ilana Golan

And I think what you just shared, Mick, is also attaching so well to the Mick factor and the mindset investment.

I want you to talk about it.

Talk to me about where did that Mick factor come from and how do you use that?

And, you know, what do you do with people, Mick?

You're talking our language because one of the stories that I tell is, yes, my fear of meeting that person that I was supposed to become and I didn't because of excuses, right?

I was afraid.

I didn't have time, like all the excuses.

And now you wrote this incredible book, which I find it fascinating because it's like how to be a good leader when you never had one, which is really, really interesting to look at that.

And it's kind of a blueprint for modern leadership, right?

So talk to me about the book and what made you stop everything.

I mean, I'm writing a book now.

Mick, it's annoying as heck.

But okay, so what made you do this?

Ooh, that's powerful.

I actually didn't think of the fact that our kids don't really look at leadership in the same way.

That makes a ton of sense.

For me, one of the biggest mentors in my life is Richard Branson, and he's been embodying this incredible leadership with so much love and so much caring.

And I was just like, oh my God, this is who I want to become.

This is what I want to learn from.

But you're right.