Ilana Golan

And I think that's a big passion of mine in Leap Academy and help everybody become their own economy.

And even if they want a job, but you can't just be reliant on somebody else.

You need to be somehow in control.

But you had some interesting also entrepreneurship experiences.

I don't know if we want to touch it just a little bit, but I do think

No matter what, like, I think it just creates a whole different perspective if you've seen a little bit of that journey as well.

So take me a little bit of some of the biggest lessons from those entrepreneurship things.

If you don't have a startup, please don't.

That's a very big difference.

I want to stop you for a second.

First of all, I think it is important to understand that sometimes you come to something from a passion, whether you're a coach or a marketing person or whatever, and you want to help with people through consulting or coaching or whatever.

And I think one of the things that people miss is that if you're an entrepreneur trying to do this, most of the time, you're not actually going to do the thing that you love.

You're actually going to do more sales and marketing than you even anticipate, right?

So

The thing that you love is a tiny, tiny, tiny piece and all the rest is like sales and marketing.

So first of all, just put it a little bit in perspective.

But then how do you know when it's time to say, you know what, now there's an opportunity in Intel or whatever, right?

I need to move on.

When is it time to leap?

All the signs are telling you.