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Oh my God. Okay. That is crazy. So you decided to stay and then you found the role in Hawaiian basically?

Oh my God. Okay. That is crazy. So you decided to stay and then you found the role in Hawaiian basically?

So, but let's go back to surfing because I think that's just such a great point. You see how my smile now. I know. I got it. It is so interesting because I think I do see so many similarities between, and even in the podcast, between perseverance in sports and perseverance in anything else. Because again, you need to fall down. You need to pick yourself back up. We see it every single time.

So, but let's go back to surfing because I think that's just such a great point. You see how my smile now. I know. I got it. It is so interesting because I think I do see so many similarities between, and even in the podcast, between perseverance in sports and perseverance in anything else. Because again, you need to fall down. You need to pick yourself back up. We see it every single time.

It's just amazing. So walk me through. Learning to surf for the first time, because that gets really hairy. And then what keeps you getting back up?

It's just amazing. So walk me through. Learning to surf for the first time, because that gets really hairy. And then what keeps you getting back up?

It's true for entrepreneurship. It's true for pilots. It's true for anything you do. The challenges are inevitable, right? The suffering to it or, you know, what you make out of it is a choice, but the challenges will be there. And you not only learn this really, really quick, but you're also competing, right, in the Maccabiac Games, which is insane. But take me to some of these falls.

It's true for entrepreneurship. It's true for pilots. It's true for anything you do. The challenges are inevitable, right? The suffering to it or, you know, what you make out of it is a choice, but the challenges will be there. And you not only learn this really, really quick, but you're also competing, right, in the Maccabiac Games, which is insane. But take me to some of these falls.

Does it ever catch you and like, I don't want to do this. Like I'm cold, I'm miserable, like I'm breathing too much water. Like does it ever?

Does it ever catch you and like, I don't want to do this. Like I'm cold, I'm miserable, like I'm breathing too much water. Like does it ever?

And for me, like sometimes I hear, and I'm sure the listeners will hear advice. And we're like, don't you just want to rest? You're flying when you like, and you do jet lags and then you serve and you do this. Don't you just want to like chill on the beach and have fun? And I don't know, some margaritas.

And for me, like sometimes I hear, and I'm sure the listeners will hear advice. And we're like, don't you just want to rest? You're flying when you like, and you do jet lags and then you serve and you do this. Don't you just want to like chill on the beach and have fun? And I don't know, some margaritas.

So you end up competing in the Maccabiah. How much anxiety? Competing is a different level. How did you cope with anxiety and stuff like that?

So you end up competing in the Maccabiah. How much anxiety? Competing is a different level. How did you cope with anxiety and stuff like that?

It's nothing. It's like most people have it for so long.

It's nothing. It's like most people have it for so long.

I love that you're doing it. I think it's just so beautiful. And I also say, I'm giving you a hard time for, and we're laughing about being busy, but I do think that life is in phases. And I think there's different phases in which you're going to push different elements in your life. And it just feels like this is the right phase and your phase.

I love that you're doing it. I think it's just so beautiful. And I also say, I'm giving you a hard time for, and we're laughing about being busy, but I do think that life is in phases. And I think there's different phases in which you're going to push different elements in your life. And it just feels like this is the right phase and your phase.

Like I think I was pushing, like, I don't know, Ironmans and adventure races and other things. So I think I can totally relate. And I think it's just also part of the experience that grow you and live with you and the things that you can carry with you. So I'm just excited for you, but for people who are listening and they're maybe in crossroads of what's next and how do I find my passion?

Like I think I was pushing, like, I don't know, Ironmans and adventure races and other things. So I think I can totally relate. And I think it's just also part of the experience that grow you and live with you and the things that you can carry with you. So I'm just excited for you, but for people who are listening and they're maybe in crossroads of what's next and how do I find my passion?