Ilana

What came to you there and why did that become such a big motivator for you to open these conversations and to figure out the real truth now?

What came to you there and why did that become such a big motivator for you to open these conversations and to figure out the real truth now?

That's fascinating to us because I was exactly there. Until I found my husband now, I was exactly this. I would push people aside, you know, in a way because I knew that I'm basically shielding myself from that potential separation. It's incredible to hear you now.

That's fascinating to us because I was exactly there. Until I found my husband now, I was exactly this. I would push people aside, you know, in a way because I knew that I'm basically shielding myself from that potential separation. It's incredible to hear you now.

And I want to take you there, I guess for this reason, but I want to go there a little deeper, right? In 2015, if I'm not mistaken, you produced the documentary, The End, which honestly grew to become this viral sensation experienced by over 150 million people. Why do you believe this turned into such a success? And how did you have the guts to say, this is what I want to do?

And I want to take you there, I guess for this reason, but I want to go there a little deeper, right? In 2015, if I'm not mistaken, you produced the documentary, The End, which honestly grew to become this viral sensation experienced by over 150 million people. Why do you believe this turned into such a success? And how did you have the guts to say, this is what I want to do?

So talk to us about this space, because I think, again, you're going to have hard conversation or crucial conversations everywhere you go. You're going to have it with your bosses, with your peers, with loved ones, with partners, with kids. What makes a space?

So talk to us about this space, because I think, again, you're going to have hard conversation or crucial conversations everywhere you go. You're going to have it with your bosses, with your peers, with loved ones, with partners, with kids. What makes a space?

For you, it's questions.

For you, it's questions.

So talk to us more about these questions. And you have a full book on that, but talk to us a little bit about these questions because I think it's so important. People don't know what to ask and how to go there.

So talk to us more about these questions. And you have a full book on that, but talk to us a little bit about these questions because I think it's so important. People don't know what to ask and how to go there.

Oof, that's strong. I want you to tell me about one of those hard, maybe hard conversations. And you don't call them hard. You call them good, deep conversations.

Oof, that's strong. I want you to tell me about one of those hard, maybe hard conversations. And you don't call them hard. You call them good, deep conversations.

But they can be hard, right?

But they can be hard, right?

So I want to talk a little bit about a hard conversation that you either witnessed or been part of that shaped your understanding that you need to, I mean, it's a muscle that you need to build. And we're not born with that muscle. We're not taught this muscle. Can you share a moment?

So I want to talk a little bit about a hard conversation that you either witnessed or been part of that shaped your understanding that you need to, I mean, it's a muscle that you need to build. And we're not born with that muscle. We're not taught this muscle. Can you share a moment?

And that is so, so, so important to pause. I actually do want to drill a little bit into this because the audience will actually find themselves in either they need to talk to their boss or their peers or to employees or whatever it is. And it is scary. And then you start pushing it and pushing it and pushing it. And that just amplifies the problem, like you said, right?

And that is so, so, so important to pause. I actually do want to drill a little bit into this because the audience will actually find themselves in either they need to talk to their boss or their peers or to employees or whatever it is. And it is scary. And then you start pushing it and pushing it and pushing it. And that just amplifies the problem, like you said, right?