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And I think, but somehow, and we'll talk about is because you're able from really hard moments to actually find your passion and swerve it towards analyzing and actually understanding. So to me, that is your zone of genius. I think it was really interesting for the listeners to understand sometimes from your hardest moments will actually come the biggest breakthroughs.

And I think, but somehow, and we'll talk about is because you're able from really hard moments to actually find your passion and swerve it towards analyzing and actually understanding. So to me, that is your zone of genius. I think it was really interesting for the listeners to understand sometimes from your hardest moments will actually come the biggest breakthroughs.

You've been author of many books, top keynotes. You've been on Google Talks and Brazilian podcasts, right? But at some point during COVID, something flipped and you started going into... Some very weird things. Can you share a little bit? When I read this, I have to say in your book, Misbelief, it's heart-wrenching. I literally had tears in my eyes. Can you share a little bit what happened?

You've been author of many books, top keynotes. You've been on Google Talks and Brazilian podcasts, right? But at some point during COVID, something flipped and you started going into... Some very weird things. Can you share a little bit? When I read this, I have to say in your book, Misbelief, it's heart-wrenching. I literally had tears in my eyes. Can you share a little bit what happened?

And I can't still understand that, I have to say, even though I read the book. And I think one of the things that you explained so well there is how this can happen almost to everybody, how they can move from something nudged them a little bit to the wrong way, and suddenly you're going off to the dark holes of the internet and beyond. We are seeing a lot of people

And I can't still understand that, I have to say, even though I read the book. And I think one of the things that you explained so well there is how this can happen almost to everybody, how they can move from something nudged them a little bit to the wrong way, and suddenly you're going off to the dark holes of the internet and beyond. We are seeing a lot of people

losing their job, they can barely pay the bill, they run into endless rejections. We can see how it's taking them to really dark places. What do you feel they should do? Like what helped you wake up in the morning and say, I didn't sleep well at night, but I'm going to try again?

losing their job, they can barely pay the bill, they run into endless rejections. We can see how it's taking them to really dark places. What do you feel they should do? Like what helped you wake up in the morning and say, I didn't sleep well at night, but I'm going to try again?

So taking control back to you.

So taking control back to you.

First of all, it's really great to be boxed together with Bill Gates in the same way. To me, that's a huge compliment. But I hear you.

First of all, it's really great to be boxed together with Bill Gates in the same way. To me, that's a huge compliment. But I hear you.

Well, we'll bash them back because I'm a big fan and I think that's all BS. And I know how you've been for decades trying to just help explain humanity, help people date better, help people make more money. You've been trying to help humanity for decades. How can they even take you there?

Well, we'll bash them back because I'm a big fan and I think that's all BS. And I know how you've been for decades trying to just help explain humanity, help people date better, help people make more money. You've been trying to help humanity for decades. How can they even take you there?

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