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John Maxwell says it beautifully. He talks about the people pile. And I think, you know, a lot of it is understanding people and how do you rise above the noise? And that is incredible to hear. So you find this internship. How from that in 2005, you became, you know, a really, really young CEO of a global company, Havas. Again, how did that happen?

John Maxwell says it beautifully. He talks about the people pile. And I think, you know, a lot of it is understanding people and how do you rise above the noise? And that is incredible to hear. So you find this internship. How from that in 2005, you became, you know, a really, really young CEO of a global company, Havas. Again, how did that happen?

And also, how do you adapt to such a big, big role? I mean, that's hard.

And also, how do you adapt to such a big, big role? I mean, that's hard.

I'm hearing that you're just not afraid. Or maybe you're afraid, but you do it anyway, right? Because different cultures, different countries, different people, that takes a lot. But then you're also... You're not afraid of going back in order to leapfrog forward. What do you think went in your head? Did you know that you're taking a risk? Did you just see the future?

I'm hearing that you're just not afraid. Or maybe you're afraid, but you do it anyway, right? Because different cultures, different countries, different people, that takes a lot. But then you're also... You're not afraid of going back in order to leapfrog forward. What do you think went in your head? Did you know that you're taking a risk? Did you just see the future?

Because again, marketing and tech is exactly where you are now. This is your secret sauce. But back then, what made you do this move?

Because again, marketing and tech is exactly where you are now. This is your secret sauce. But back then, what made you do this move?

I think one of the favorite quotes that I heard you say at some point is that I think something along the line is the mobile phone, which is so true, right? Made every person into a content creator, but generative AI made every person into an advertising agency or something along these lines, right, David? When I heard you say that, I was just like, it's just an incredible way to see this.

I think one of the favorite quotes that I heard you say at some point is that I think something along the line is the mobile phone, which is so true, right? Made every person into a content creator, but generative AI made every person into an advertising agency or something along these lines, right, David? When I heard you say that, I was just like, it's just an incredible way to see this.

And now it all... so aligned with brand tech and what you guys are creating, which I want to go into. But one thing I just want to ask you, because you shared this incredible story, if you will, the difference between being at the top, like a CEO and number two, three, four, whatever it is, to me feels light years away. What does it take to adapt to such a big role?

And now it all... so aligned with brand tech and what you guys are creating, which I want to go into. But one thing I just want to ask you, because you shared this incredible story, if you will, the difference between being at the top, like a CEO and number two, three, four, whatever it is, to me feels light years away. What does it take to adapt to such a big role?

So take me on that journey, David, because I would also assume that it's impossible. Tell me a little bit. You're on this journey. You see this need. But between that and raising $300 million, there's a big gap. So take me on this journey for a second. Where are we? 2015, roughly?

So take me on that journey, David, because I would also assume that it's impossible. Tell me a little bit. You're on this journey. You see this need. But between that and raising $300 million, there's a big gap. So take me on this journey for a second. Where are we? 2015, roughly?

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