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Did you ever think, oh my God, maybe I just can't improve this team or, oh my God, it's going to take down my brand if I'm not able to do like, did you ever make it mean anything bad for you?

Did you ever think, oh my God, maybe I just can't improve this team or, oh my God, it's going to take down my brand if I'm not able to do like, did you ever make it mean anything bad for you?

You are a wrestling fan and you're starting to think about funding All Elite Wrestling, which is a huge undertaking. Tony, first of all, what was that moment when you started thinking, this is what I really should do?

You are a wrestling fan and you're starting to think about funding All Elite Wrestling, which is a huge undertaking. Tony, first of all, what was that moment when you started thinking, this is what I really should do?

Take me there for a second, because to some extent, and again, I'm kind of comparing WWE to like a Google, you know, where like, if you know that there's like this big monster around, you're really scared to create a little competition, right? Because you're like, who am I to start creating this from scratch? And how do I even get started? And who's going to trust me?

Take me there for a second, because to some extent, and again, I'm kind of comparing WWE to like a Google, you know, where like, if you know that there's like this big monster around, you're really scared to create a little competition, right? Because you're like, who am I to start creating this from scratch? And how do I even get started? And who's going to trust me?

There's a lot of fear involved. So there's excitement, but fear or no, it doesn't sound like it even like... It made a lot of sense.

There's a lot of fear involved. So there's excitement, but fear or no, it doesn't sound like it even like... It made a lot of sense.

So a lot of it is your wrestling love and knowledge and experience of it. But also that combined with all the years and years and connections and the NFL and all the things that you built already in football and NFL, it's like you already knew a lot in the world. But take me there just for the first year, right?

So a lot of it is your wrestling love and knowledge and experience of it. But also that combined with all the years and years and connections and the NFL and all the things that you built already in football and NFL, it's like you already knew a lot in the world. But take me there just for the first year, right?

Because a lot of our listeners are like, I have all these like big ideas and I want to create something big. But the fear is numbing, right? Or they don't really know. There's no blueprint. There's no map. Like you kind of need to figure things out. How do you get started with such an audacious goal, if you will?

Because a lot of our listeners are like, I have all these like big ideas and I want to create something big. But the fear is numbing, right? Or they don't really know. There's no blueprint. There's no map. Like you kind of need to figure things out. How do you get started with such an audacious goal, if you will?

It's not easy. Like people are like, oh, you know, he can go to his father. It's not easy to go to your father. So take me there for a second. How do you even convince him? And how do you not make his pushback mean like you still work with that conviction of I truly believe this is an amazing opportunity. Take me there for a second, Tony.

It's not easy. Like people are like, oh, you know, he can go to his father. It's not easy to go to your father. So take me there for a second. How do you even convince him? And how do you not make his pushback mean like you still work with that conviction of I truly believe this is an amazing opportunity. Take me there for a second, Tony.

I mean, now, AEW is a big, big deal. Anywhere you look into it, it's like, this is a big disruptor in the world, right? And it changes the whole landscape. But when you start, you need to earn people's trust. You need to get people to partner with you when you don't have a lot to offer. And I get capital is part of it, but how do you get people to trust you in the beginning?

I mean, now, AEW is a big, big deal. Anywhere you look into it, it's like, this is a big disruptor in the world, right? And it changes the whole landscape. But when you start, you need to earn people's trust. You need to get people to partner with you when you don't have a lot to offer. And I get capital is part of it, but how do you get people to trust you in the beginning?

I'll wait for somebody else to start first.

I'll wait for somebody else to start first.

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