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Illia Polosukhin

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

It's like a TEE type of thing?

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

Yeah, this is all kind of runs inside TEE.

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

And then for anything additional, so again, for example, TEE only gives you the attestation for things that are running right now.

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

Then we have the multi-party computation for encryption, decryption, and kind of storage, et cetera.

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

So we're kind of combining all of these elements into one kind of experience.

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

Well, it's cheaper than traffic because it's open-weight models, right?

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

So it's on par with if you would use this open-weight models from other providers.

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

I wouldn't say there's much overhead.

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

So the real overhead of TEs and kind of all the encryption-decryption is like usually less than 5%, around 2%, 1%, depending on the model size and kind of some networking.

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

So one other limitation that, I mean, we are facing right now.

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

So yes, you cannot trust it with secrets.

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

You cannot trust it with private data.

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

And also right now, you also cannot trust it with reading like internet data very like, so for example, what we are using right now, Iron Claw, right, is, and kind of the reason why we can do this

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

with Ironclaw, is it's actually able to start automating a lot of the workflows that before you would need someone to do, right?

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

It can, like, effectively on the new GitHub issue filed, it can go, you know, analyze it, prepare a plan, and then, yes, you don't trust it for a judgment yet.

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

So you're still waiting for somebody to come in and say, it's cool, let's do it, or, you know, fix this thing.

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

And then it goes, does it, and does full workflow and effectively...

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

Again, you only have another checkpoint at the end.

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

So I think the piece that where we are right now is if you can trust it with secrets context and dealing with external information, external parties, then the workflow needs to change, right?

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Illia Polosukhin: Why AI Agents Are Still Useless (And What Fixes Them) | NEAR Founder on IronClaw

Where it's not you telling it what to do.