Illia Polosukhin

There's a lot of reasons where the government can step in and take over, you know, one of the frontier labs and effectively use this technology to do massive surveillance and massive kind of enforcement.

Like we should protect against that.

We should really build systems that resilient to that.

That is why we are in the blockchain space in the first place, as I'm sure kind of people have either interfaced it or realized this is important.

So I think like I'm in a camp of like more nuance, like, hey, let's accelerate the humanity and sovereignty of individuals and use those tools to do that.

Let's create economic forces that really enable everyone to be kind of higher on the pyramid, more successful, do the things that they really want to do.

And then let's create a defense system against like power corruption, which we know kind of always happens.

Yeah, I mean, I think that what you mentioned, right?

I mean, Peter had kind of bad encounters and like the meme coin space in general is kind of been creating a lot of negative perception in AI.

The kind of,

The low onboarding, like the no boundary to onboard into crypto, which is great from kind of, you know, empowerment perspective.

It also means it's really hard to filter out the noise for anyone who is kind of looking in.

And so I think generally the challenge being, yeah, for anyone who is doing AI and obviously kind of there's a lot of talented people there, it's really hard for them to know like what's right and what's wrong.

So this is why we did NearCon in San Francisco a couple of weeks ago and brought people from OpenAI, from...

Oracle, from Google, from Intel, from Snowflake to really bridge this gap where, you know, I had two of my other co-authors of attention.

I had, you know, we had some ex-AI, kind of ex-co-founder, kind of top researchers, some of the top executives, you know, AI Clouds.

kind of all just in one place with crypto, with Kraken, with kind of those investors to really kind of start bridging this gap that it's like, hey, this is like real, like there's a real contribution.

Eric Voorhees was there as well.

We had a fireside with him.

And so really bridging this gap between kind of