Illia Polosukhin

general AI space and kind of how crypto is contributing and bringing properties.

But I think, yeah, like it'll take some time to mend kind of the bed wrap.

And I mean, part of the reason why I moved to NSF is actually been doing that kind of on a social scene here.

Diplomacy?

Yeah, I mean, like effectively bringing together people across, and like in AI, there's also Rift internally, which is like closed source versus open source, right?

And like there's a bunch of AI researchers who believe open source is dangerous and, you know, it should be all super controlled and kind of, you know.

that individual is the only way to do things, right?

And so there's also just like that gap and like crypto is even further in open source spectrum, right?

So really working on kind of bringing those pieces together in a positive way, as well as, you know, bringing products and really showcasing now to companies is like, hey,

There is an alternative that is private.

You don't need to do your data that is capable with iron claw that you can trust, right?

So like showcasing products that actually can bridge this gap as well.

Yeah, I think there are probably a few dimensions.

One is if you're trying to build a business right now, the network effects are... Like the software differentiation is becoming non-existent, right?

It's distribution and network effects that are kind of important.

And so I think, yeah, thinking crypto is...

Crypto intersection of AI is where you can create interesting network effects.

It's where you can create kind of new ways to capture that.

And so I think this is where, you know, everything from like verticalized marketplaces to kind of specific ways of capturing reputation.

What we discussed, like how do you bridge...