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Ilya Sutskever

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

We've discussed the value function business earlier.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

And maybe once people get good at value functions, they will be using their resources more productively.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

And if you find a whole other way of training models, you could say, is this scaling or is it just using your resources?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

I think it becomes a little bit ambiguous in a sense that when people were in the age of research back then, it was like people say, hey, let's try this and this and this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Let's try that and that and that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Oh, look, something interesting is happening.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

And I think there will be a return to that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

So the discussion about value function, I think it was interesting.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

I want to emphasize that I think the value function is something like, it's going to make our realm more efficient.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

And I think that makes a difference.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

But I think that anything you can do with a value function, you can do without, just more slowly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

The thing which I think is the most fundamental is that these models somehow just generalize dramatically worse than people.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

And it's super obvious.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

That seems like a very fundamental thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

So you know, you could actually wonder.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

One possible explanation for the human sample efficiency that needs to be considered is evolution.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

And evolution has given us a small amount of the most useful information possible.