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Ilya Sutskever

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

And for things like vision, hearing, and locomotion, I think there's a pretty strong case that evolution actually has given us a lot.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

So, for example, human dexterity far exceeds...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Robots can become dexterous too if you subject them to like a huge amount of training and simulation.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

But to train a robot in the real world to quickly like pick up a new skill like a person does seems very out of reach.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

And here you could say, oh yeah, like locomotion, all our ancestors needed great locomotion, squirrels like...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

So locomotion may be like, we've got like some unbelievable prior.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

You could make the same case for vision.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

You know, I believe Yann LeCun made the point, oh, like children learn to drive after 10 hours of practice, which is true.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

But our vision is so good.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

At least for me, when I remember myself being five-year-old, I was very excited about cars back then.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

And I'm pretty sure my car recognition was more than adequate for self-driving already as a five-year-old.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

You don't get to see that much data as a five-year-old.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

You spend most of your time in your parents' house.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

So you have very low data diversity.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

But you could say maybe that's evolution too.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

But then language and math and coding, probably not.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

What I meant to say is that language, math and coding, and especially math and coding, suggests that whatever it is that makes people good at learning is probably not so much a complicated prior, but something more, some fundamental thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

So consider a skill that people exhibit some kind of great reliability or, you know... Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

If the skill is one that was very useful to our ancestors for many millions of years, hundreds of millions of years, you could say, you could argue that maybe humans are good at it because of evolution, because we have a prior, an evolutionary prior that's encoded in some very non-obvious way that somehow makes us so good at it.