Ina Garten

I thank you for listening.

After this quick break, Jennifer and I talk with one of the world's leading experts on mattering who shares vital information on the link between mattering and your health and longevity.

Hi, and welcome back to The Oprah Podcast.

I'm with New York Times bestselling author and journalist Jennifer Wallace.

Her new book is Mattering, The Secret to a Life of Deep Connection and Purpose.

If there's someone you love who is struggling with feeling valued or seen, I hope you share this episode with them.

So imagine my delight when I'm just flipping through the book, reading the page, and da-da-da-dum, page 15, connecting to your impact and reading the stories.

And then I come across page 18, and there's a quote from Oprah Winfrey.

I'm like, wow, I'm in this book.

where I say there's a common denominator in the human experience that we all share.

So that obviously resonated with you as deeply as it has resonated throughout my life.

But isn't that true?

It is so true.

That's the thread that connects us all.

You know, we're the wealthiest nation in the world.

And we have, you know, so much affluence and indulgence and abundance.

Did you find talking to people in other countries that were not as wealthy and people were not as well off that their sense of mattering is different than an ours?

Well, I want to bring in Dr. Gordon Flecht.

whom you know.

A professor emeritus in psychology at York University in Toronto.