Inyash Brodsky

We still have this...

pressing on us and calling for us to come back.

Do you think maybe in another 10,000 years, we will get past that where there isn't even a desire to return to this pre Eve level of consciousness.

And we are fully, fully self-realized individual, you know, satanic temple type humans.

The future of spirituality may be this battle between the people who want to revert and the people who want to either advance or further alienate, depending on how you look at it.

Do you think the getting extreme levels of recursion and losing the gestalt consciousness, not gestalt, but the combined consciousness makes humans less adaptive once we can control our own fertility because we just don't reproduce anymore?

Unless you can show people that having a family is the most satisfying thing.

So for a Mormon complaining about a kid crying on a plane would be like a person complaining about black people being on a plane.

Like you just don't do it.

Oh no.

Well, I want to end on the AI thing.

You've mentioned the AI a couple times in our conversation.

I keep skirting around it because I wanted to save it to the end here.

The line I pulled out from your writing is we have an N equals one example of the emergence of general intelligence, and we're about to build another, which sounds very ominous.

Where would you like to start with the AI discussion, I guess, before I introduce my own biases here?

It sounds like you think in that case, as long as you get a large enough, powerful enough brain, once it reaches a certain magnitude, it seems like you have the feeling it will attain recursion naturally.

It won't necessarily need to stumble upon a ritual or something.

Do you think it would be possible to build an AI that doesn't have recursive thought, even if it is technically far more powerful than our brains are?

Okay.

In that case, it could be theoretically controllable.