Ira Glass

It was good to learn all that.

But the vision of the lie, that we live in a world where monkeys can be trained to paint, is hard to give up.

I know what she means.

For me, there's something appealingly weird about a world where only people who happen to have been born with the name Nielsen get to decide what goes on television.

And not long after the day that Jodi Mace's co-worker set her straight about the word zing, she found herself on the opposite side of the exact same situation.

She was having a conversation with another co-worker, and he asked her if elves were real.

Elves?

Like that live in the forest, she asked, with the pointy toes?

He nodded.

She paused.

And then she said, yeah, of course they are.

Alex Bloomberg.

Today's show is a rerun, as I've said.

These days, he is out of the radio game.

He's running a building electrification and decarbonization platform called Daisy Chain Energy.

If you reach out through his website, he'll tell you all about it.

The program was produced today by Jonathan Goldstein and myself with Alex Bloomberg, Wendy Doran, Starlee Kind.

Senior producer for today's show is Julie Snyder.

Today's show was first broadcast years ago.

Production help on this rerun from Michael Comete, Molly Marcello, and Stone Nelson.