Ira Glass

But if the University of Texas was on trial, I could put my feelings aside and judge the University of Texas fairly.

If I can do that, can you do that?

And finally, one of the potential jurors in the back and forth said, sort of respectfully, a college rivalry is not the same as human rights.

And this anti-ICE stuff comes up again then when the prosecution gets a chance to ask their questions.

One woman just starts out saying, I don't think I can be on this jury.

I have two family members who have died after being deported.

Another one is like, ISIS tactics, the conditions in the detention facilities are horrific.

I don't know if I could put my feelings aside.

And the government attorney is like, I'm sorry, could you repeat that?

She's like, horrific.

Yeah, the defense comes up and right away things go awry.

The story really changes here.

The first defense attorney comes to ask her questions.

This is defense attorney Marquita Clayton.

And she brings sort of a poster board to help with her questioning.

And the judge sees this and he like freaks.

He's like, what is that?

Has the prosecution seen that?

I haven't seen that.

You are not allowed to bring props in here.