Ira Glass

And in fact, one of the things we'll do together is we'll have study hall together. We'll be like, well, let's get together, but we'll just kind of sit across from each other.

And in fact, one of the things we'll do together is we'll have study hall together. We'll be like, well, let's get together, but we'll just kind of sit across from each other.

Yeah, of course. That was the entire first five years, pretty much. Like, it seemed like I could be putting all this work into this thing and it could vanish. But honestly, that seemed fine to me.

Yeah, of course. That was the entire first five years, pretty much. Like, it seemed like I could be putting all this work into this thing and it could vanish. But honestly, that seemed fine to me.

Yeah, of course. That was the entire first five years, pretty much. Like, it seemed like I could be putting all this work into this thing and it could vanish. But honestly, that seemed fine to me.

Oh, yeah. Like, who cares? Like, I would just, I would find something else to do. Like, I don't know. I just knew, like, not that many people knew how to edit tape and knew how to make a nice story for NPR. I knew if, like, if this blew up, I could just go back to all things instead of a morning edition. I'd be fine. It'd be fine. I'd find something else to do.

Oh, yeah. Like, who cares? Like, I would just, I would find something else to do. Like, I don't know. I just knew, like, not that many people knew how to edit tape and knew how to make a nice story for NPR. I knew if, like, if this blew up, I could just go back to all things instead of a morning edition. I'd be fine. It'd be fine. I'd find something else to do.

Oh, yeah. Like, who cares? Like, I would just, I would find something else to do. Like, I don't know. I just knew, like, not that many people knew how to edit tape and knew how to make a nice story for NPR. I knew if, like, if this blew up, I could just go back to all things instead of a morning edition. I'd be fine. It'd be fine. I'd find something else to do.

In fact, like, in the early contracts for This American Life, we had never had to, like, clear rights for something. Like, I didn't know how to do it, and I didn't know—I wasn't smart enough to ask, like, a proper intellectual property lawyer, how do you do this? And so basically we would just write up contracts based on sort of common sense.

In fact, like, in the early contracts for This American Life, we had never had to, like, clear rights for something. Like, I didn't know how to do it, and I didn't know—I wasn't smart enough to ask, like, a proper intellectual property lawyer, how do you do this? And so basically we would just write up contracts based on sort of common sense.

In fact, like, in the early contracts for This American Life, we had never had to, like, clear rights for something. Like, I didn't know how to do it, and I didn't know—I wasn't smart enough to ask, like, a proper intellectual property lawyer, how do you do this? And so basically we would just write up contracts based on sort of common sense.

And I remember if like David Sedaris would read a story on the show, we would get the rights to broadcast it and rebroadcast it for three years. And I remember thinking like, if this show lasts three years and we have to go back and renegotiate that contract, that would be a problem I would love to have. It seems so unlikely.

And I remember if like David Sedaris would read a story on the show, we would get the rights to broadcast it and rebroadcast it for three years. And I remember thinking like, if this show lasts three years and we have to go back and renegotiate that contract, that would be a problem I would love to have. It seems so unlikely.

And I remember if like David Sedaris would read a story on the show, we would get the rights to broadcast it and rebroadcast it for three years. And I remember thinking like, if this show lasts three years and we have to go back and renegotiate that contract, that would be a problem I would love to have. It seems so unlikely.

It was from a place of terror. Okay. Yeah, like I didn't want the thing to be bad. Yeah. And that was terrifying. But I also felt like if this doesn't work out, if people don't like this show, if this isn't something... good, then that's fine. I had worked on a bunch of different shows and some had blown up.

It was from a place of terror. Okay. Yeah, like I didn't want the thing to be bad. Yeah. And that was terrifying. But I also felt like if this doesn't work out, if people don't like this show, if this isn't something... good, then that's fine. I had worked on a bunch of different shows and some had blown up.

It was from a place of terror. Okay. Yeah, like I didn't want the thing to be bad. Yeah. And that was terrifying. But I also felt like if this doesn't work out, if people don't like this show, if this isn't something... good, then that's fine. I had worked on a bunch of different shows and some had blown up.

I mean, I never started my own show besides The Wild Room, the local show that I did with my friends. But I had worked on a bunch of shows and some had blown up. And I don't know, everybody moved on. It would be fine. And so then it becomes stable. You enter a period where...

I mean, I never started my own show besides The Wild Room, the local show that I did with my friends. But I had worked on a bunch of shows and some had blown up. And I don't know, everybody moved on. It would be fine. And so then it becomes stable. You enter a period where...

I mean, I never started my own show besides The Wild Room, the local show that I did with my friends. But I had worked on a bunch of shows and some had blown up. And I don't know, everybody moved on. It would be fine. And so then it becomes stable. You enter a period where...