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Isaac Saul

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
518 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

Because I think there are, you know, not all of them, maybe not even half of them.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

But if a quarter of Trump supporters were incensed enough by some of this stuff to maybe think twice about Trump,

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

their support for the president or the lines they want to draw on the sand for future presidents, they might be standing up and speaking out.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

But right now, I just don't think these stories are reaching them.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

And I think it's evidenced by the fact that we're all just kind of in these algorithmic silos right now.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

Yeah, no, I think there is asymmetry there.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

I mean, I don't think that's an unfair critique of kind of the media ecosystems and how we're operating in them.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

I mean, I also think in this current political environment, the reverse was almost true, you know, in the middle of Obama's term.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

But I think liberals are much more skeptical about,

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

of their own party than Republicans are of their own.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

Like the Democratic infighting hasn't come to a head in a big way because they're the minority party and they don't have any power right now, but it is going to.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

And there is a lot of disagreement there.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

And I think Republicans are kind of on the other side of that

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

intraparty war and trump won and he has sort of gotten everybody to bend the knee and so there's just way less skepticism and internal criticism toward him or toward the administration

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

Yeah, which is interesting to me.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

I mean, I do think, you know, somebody like Steve Bannon comes to mind, the kind of war room mentality who he โ€“ I mean, I don't know.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

I literally don't know what to make of him.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

I mean, I know reporters who have talked, and I've never interviewed him.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

I've never sat down with him.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

Okay, well, I'd be curious what you think.