Isaac Saul

I mean, like someone like Steve Bannon –

built his career on being this incredibly salient critic of the swampiness of DC.

And now, the most corrupt, slimy, conservative politicians are getting free passes for fraud, defrauding their donors, all these kinds of things.

Trump is pardoning these people.

They're making all these very, to me, overt quid pro quo deals.

And he doesn't seem to give a shit, and I don't understand that.

So I'd be curious, what do you think his frame for this is?

Because he's somebody I would expect to be talking about this on his show.

That's interesting.

I mean, yeah, I guess it's hard for me to accept that the sort of populism is so faux that this wouldn't be the kind of thing that incenses him because – Accept it, baby.

Yeah.

Accept it.

Yeah.

And like, again, it's I try not to be too judgmental about people that I've never sat in a room with and gotten a read on.

And I and I don't know him.

And but when I listen to some of the stuff that he talks about on his show, and this is true of Tucker, too, and it was true of Trump in 2016.

It's like for me personally, where I'm holding politically, they say things where I'm nodding my head.

I'm like, hell, yeah, I agree with you.

And then I watch them go become the thing that they said they were fighting.

And it's like, I want to rip my hair out.