Isaac Stanley-Becker

This is, if I understand it correctly, only the second time you've spoken, the first being in 2020.

What are you going to do if they don't leave and if the situation doesn't improve?

I think he's been pretty adamant that state and local governments have operated carefully and competently here.

He was firm in his position that when it comes to immigration enforcement, they'll comply with federal law, but they're not going to go out of their way to take these steps to assist Trump's immigration enforcement operations.

Oh, boy.

I mean, he just was described this as utterly dire.

We have people now, and I just have to say it, I have... You know, one of the kind of amazing moments to me was when he talked about suburban vehicles, these SUVs, that his own residents, his own constituents mistook that for ICE vehicles and basically fled from him.

What's the logical endpoint of this, of this kind of vendetta and also of this kind of open hostility against blue states, blue communities?

I mean, do you worry about a kind of civil war scenario in this country?

Just one more question on the National Guard.

And you said people want you to order the guard to arrest the agents.

Have you thought about a scenario, a kind of worst case scenario in which there's a clash between these different, you know, parts of the law?

Well, so there's been reporting they were placed on administrative leave.

You still don't know the names of these officers?

You're still under investigation, is that right?

Did that come up at all, the conversation with the president?

What did the president say about that?

Is there anything else about the president's tone or the dynamic that surprised you or stuck out to you from Monday?

Do you think that there's a chance that this might change the immigration debate?

And do you think that would be a short-term change?