Isabelle Boemeke

And this is the belief that a lot of young people grew up with and still hold, which is sad and tragic and also scary because it leads to this feeling of apathy.

You know, they feel like they don't have any agency in the world and they can't

possibly solve these very complex and big problems.

So I think this is something that a lot of young people definitely have.

And I would say I suffer to some extent as well, just having grown up with climate change being such a big issue.

Everybody in my generation, I'm a millennial, but everybody in my generation and younger, we all grew up with hearing about climate change.

Well, I disagree with that sentiment because I think it's also behind a lot of this feeling that we can't make the world better.

I think a lot of this sentiment that humans are bad and we've destroyed the planet, it drives also a lot of apathy.

It does, yeah.

And quite frankly, it also drives bad policies that actually harm humans.

But it's funny because people who don't believe in climate change, they'll say, oh, climate change started this fire whenever the news came out recently that the Palisades fire in L.A.

were caused by an arsonist.

They'll say, oh, I thought it was climate change.

But, you know, nobody's saying that climate change is starting the fires.

Obviously, the fires start because of, you know.

Humans trying to clear up land either for logging or raising cows or just building something.

Or, you know, of course, somebody smoking and throwing their cigarette away.

So there's a variety of reasons why fires do start.

But climate change is just making it, making the fires more extreme.

It's drier.