Isaiah Thomas

And Brunson's the one who won the finals, who won the finals first.

Right, right.

Like one of the things that we've talked about on this show a handful of times now in this playoff run is how in a post LeBron Steph Curry era, it's it's less about just one singular, not that those teams were one singular amazing player, but it's less about if you have the best guy or the second best guy, you just that maybe is enough.

with a decent roster around it to get each other over the top.

It's more like you need all of these things to sort of go right, all at the right time.

Like if Giannis doesn't have Drew Holiday, prime Chris Middleton, Brooke Lopez learns how to shoot threes.

Like everything kind of lines up for him perfectly.

When Jokic has a healthy Aaron Gordon and a healthy Jamal Murray, then it kind of lines up perfectly.

It's like, it requires a lot in this era.

And I don't think that's like a shot at anybody.

It's just sort of the reality, but it's really interesting.

Cause like there's some people who are like,

oh, what has Luka done since losing Jalen Brunson?

And it's like, oh, well, he's been first team all NBA.

He's been a perennial MVP candidate.

Like he's made it to the finals.

Actually.

It's not like he hasn't done anything.

He just, and it's, it's, it takes such a perfect confluence of things.

It seems as though over the last, whatever it's been eight seasons since we've had a repeat champion to, to actually get over the top.