Issa Rae

You know, it's just... Yeah.

I would rather, again, be behind the scenes and just working and then emerge like...

Yeah, the cocoon thing where I'm like, I feel like I'm very much in this cocoon and like this self-made cocoon just like becoming what I want to be, like becoming this.

To your point about the type and cluster years, I feel like the last couple of years I've been a moth and now I'm like, oh, I'm about to come out a butterfly.

You got to see.

I think when it comes to... I put a lot of pressure on myself, for sure.

But then, yeah, when I think about the other people who are depending on me, and that could be people at the company, that could be... It could be familial.

Yeah, I just...

Oh, you have that too?

Yeah.

Yes, I do.

To less extent than you, for sure.

Because I know, poor girl.

I don't have four kids.

But yeah, like I think about, it is mostly on myself because I envision my head where I want to be and I'm so impatient.

You know, like it really...

it really bothers me when things don't happen on my time.

And like, I always learn on the other side, like, oh, the timing was just right.

That's, but it's a lesson I have to learn literally every single time.

Yeah, I get frustrated when I can't do things the way I want to do them now, when things aren't on my time.