Ivan Balabanov

That was the cool thing, what they did, Matthias with the UNESCO. That was very, very cool. I had him on my podcast last year and he already was working on it, but he didn't want to make it public on the podcast because it was still in the process. But he's like something cool. And that was big.

That was the cool thing, what they did, Matthias with the UNESCO. That was very, very cool. I had him on my podcast last year and he already was working on it, but he didn't want to make it public on the podcast because it was still in the process. But he's like something cool. And that was big.

There will be another country, I don't know which one, but I'm sure there will be another country. I wouldn't be surprised if it's Finland or... Hopefully it will take a while. Yeah. But that's the difficult part with the sport because it's like, well, we're trying to make it so, okay, we take the tickets away, we take this away, we take this away,

There will be another country, I don't know which one, but I'm sure there will be another country. I wouldn't be surprised if it's Finland or... Hopefully it will take a while. Yeah. But that's the difficult part with the sport because it's like, well, we're trying to make it so, okay, we take the tickets away, we take this away, we take this away,

no matter what we do, it's not going to make those people happy. They still will want to cancel it. They still, no matter what, they will want to cancel it. So my thinking is we must just enjoy and defend it as much as we can. Don't keep washing down the program to try to make them happy because they will not be happy. They will never be happy. And it's not just IGP.

no matter what we do, it's not going to make those people happy. They still will want to cancel it. They still, no matter what, they will want to cancel it. So my thinking is we must just enjoy and defend it as much as we can. Don't keep washing down the program to try to make them happy because they will not be happy. They will never be happy. And it's not just IGP.

I mean, they're going after agility. They're going after everybody. But IGP seems to be the big thorn in their eye. So Holland is crazy because really two years ago it seemed like you had it under control. But then as you said, it's very easy to show some bad training. And the bad thing is that bad training didn't stop, did it? No. Right? That's the problem.

I mean, they're going after agility. They're going after everybody. But IGP seems to be the big thorn in their eye. So Holland is crazy because really two years ago it seemed like you had it under control. But then as you said, it's very easy to show some bad training. And the bad thing is that bad training didn't stop, did it? No. Right? That's the problem.

It's like, well, we're making a ban just to feel good. But it didn't help. But we don't change anything. And the only way I would think you can change it is if you go after individual person that does something bad instead of saying everybody cannot do that.

It's like, well, we're making a ban just to feel good. But it didn't help. But we don't change anything. And the only way I would think you can change it is if you go after individual person that does something bad instead of saying everybody cannot do that.

Yeah, improving the techniques and learning how to do better.

Yeah, improving the techniques and learning how to do better.

Tough one.

Tough one.

so right now if I fly to Netherlands and I have electric collar in my suitcase that's no problem but if I walk in Amsterdam with electric collar on my dog that's not allowed that's not a good thing no and you think some cop or somebody will stop me yes yeah

so right now if I fly to Netherlands and I have electric collar in my suitcase that's no problem but if I walk in Amsterdam with electric collar on my dog that's not allowed that's not a good thing no and you think some cop or somebody will stop me yes yeah

very crazy that's life now these days yeah and unfortunately as you say probably irreversible which is i don't know we are working here very hard making even different studies and showing different things and really really standing our ground and there is enough evidence but But nobody's using it. Yeah.

very crazy that's life now these days yeah and unfortunately as you say probably irreversible which is i don't know we are working here very hard making even different studies and showing different things and really really standing our ground and there is enough evidence but But nobody's using it. Yeah.

Right. Is the German Shepherd Club bigger than anything else? Kind of like everybody?

Right. Is the German Shepherd Club bigger than anything else? Kind of like everybody?