Ivan McClellan
π€ SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
I felt like I didn't belong in the rooms that I was in, that I was going to be found out, thrown out in the street, forced to move back to Kansas.
One day I was at a party.
I didn't know anybody there except for the person whose birthday it was.
And so I was just drinking by myself and sulking in the corner.
Somebody tapped me on the shoulder and I turned around and there's a tall black man with a salt and pepper afro.
And he introduces himself.
He says his name is Charles Perry.
Says he's a filmmaker.
I say, oh, I'm a photographer.
What are you working on?
He said, I'm working on a movie about black cowboys.
I said, what, like a Western?
He said, no, like a documentary.
I was like, oh, there's not enough black cowboys to make a whole documentary.
Like, I knew a thing or two about cowboys.
Like, I grew up watching Bonanza and Gunsmoke and Lonesome Dove reruns.
Like, my school choir used to sing the national anthem at the American Royal Rodeo in Kansas.
I viewed the cowboy to be the archetype of American independence and grit.
But black cowboys, the only black cowboys I knew were Sheriff Bart in Blazing Saddles and Cowboy Curtis on Pee Wee's Playhouse.