Ivan Yates

But the reality is nearly everyone in the media, and they want to be loved,

And you know what?

I always say if you're setting up any business or if you're providing any service, just answer this question.

How are you different?

Because if you're the same and they're all the same, then actually you have no point to difference.

You actually the world would get on just fine without you.

And so, and it's not just Ireland, but there is actually a mainstream media identikit that's there.

Like, and if you look at people that had a contrarian view, they end up being more or less excluded.

Now, I actually don't feel excluded.

It's nothing to do with me, but I observe it with other people.

I would observe, let's say, with Owen Harris would have been a good example.

Kevin Myers.

Oh, sorry.

All I want to...

do is be informed and entertained.

And I respect intellect, you know what I mean?

And so basically they all have sort of monoculture of views.

And you know what?

That is why we're getting 17% spoiled votes.

That is why people are alienated.