Ivan

Do you think the way that companies are built today is wrong? Idea, raise 5 million on 25 after leaving Stripe, hire people, get to a million in ARR, you're an angel ambassador too, get to a million in ARR, have... excel index and everyone fired over you get to 10 million there do you think we are building companies wrong

Do you think the way that companies are built today is wrong? Idea, raise 5 million on 25 after leaving Stripe, hire people, get to a million in ARR, you're an angel ambassador too, get to a million in ARR, have... excel index and everyone fired over you get to 10 million there do you think we are building companies wrong

Do you think the way that companies are built today is wrong? Idea, raise 5 million on 25 after leaving Stripe, hire people, get to a million in ARR, you're an angel ambassador too, get to a million in ARR, have... excel index and everyone fired over you get to 10 million there do you think we are building companies wrong

It's funny, I had the founders of UiPath, Klaviyo, Service Titan, and none of them could raise. And it meant that they all were forced to stay very close to customers for the first few years. They didn't hire customer service teams. They didn't even hire product people because they had to do it all themselves. All three said the company would not be the success it is if they'd raised the money.

It's funny, I had the founders of UiPath, Klaviyo, Service Titan, and none of them could raise. And it meant that they all were forced to stay very close to customers for the first few years. They didn't hire customer service teams. They didn't even hire product people because they had to do it all themselves. All three said the company would not be the success it is if they'd raised the money.

It's funny, I had the founders of UiPath, Klaviyo, Service Titan, and none of them could raise. And it meant that they all were forced to stay very close to customers for the first few years. They didn't hire customer service teams. They didn't even hire product people because they had to do it all themselves. All three said the company would not be the success it is if they'd raised the money.

Just out of interest. What was that internal discussion? I'm fascinated.

Just out of interest. What was that internal discussion? I'm fascinated.

Just out of interest. What was that internal discussion? I'm fascinated.

Take me to the time where money was a really constraining factor and you decided to raise it.

Take me to the time where money was a really constraining factor and you decided to raise it.

Take me to the time where money was a really constraining factor and you decided to raise it.

$50 million at $2 billion. I mean, that's a weird raise in the way, I mean, it's a brilliant raise, but in the way that it's minimal dilution, actually, but a lot of money. $50 million buys a lot. The traditional notion is, well, VCs wouldn't like that because they can't get the ownership that they need. How do you think about that raise, the structure of it? I'm just fascinated.

$50 million at $2 billion. I mean, that's a weird raise in the way, I mean, it's a brilliant raise, but in the way that it's minimal dilution, actually, but a lot of money. $50 million buys a lot. The traditional notion is, well, VCs wouldn't like that because they can't get the ownership that they need. How do you think about that raise, the structure of it? I'm just fascinated.

$50 million at $2 billion. I mean, that's a weird raise in the way, I mean, it's a brilliant raise, but in the way that it's minimal dilution, actually, but a lot of money. $50 million buys a lot. The traditional notion is, well, VCs wouldn't like that because they can't get the ownership that they need. How do you think about that raise, the structure of it? I'm just fascinated.

How do you not let that happen? alter your mindset towards focus. You've got 50 million now, actually. You can build that new team. You can build that new product. You can do that little like or hire. How do you retain that discipline when 50 million drops?

How do you not let that happen? alter your mindset towards focus. You've got 50 million now, actually. You can build that new team. You can build that new product. You can do that little like or hire. How do you retain that discipline when 50 million drops?

How do you not let that happen? alter your mindset towards focus. You've got 50 million now, actually. You can build that new team. You can build that new product. You can do that little like or hire. How do you retain that discipline when 50 million drops?

Which makes you very rare.

Which makes you very rare.