Ivan

That's not, you need to be completely obsessed. How do you think about that? And what makes a really good value in that case?

That's not, you need to be completely obsessed. How do you think about that? And what makes a really good value in that case?

That's not, you need to be completely obsessed. How do you think about that? And what makes a really good value in that case?

I spoke to Ivan again before and he said, listen, he's basically hired every single leader at Notion at this point, Harry. So you have to ask him about that. When you think back over your lessons on hiring, what are your single biggest lessons on what it takes to really get the best people into Notion?

I spoke to Ivan again before and he said, listen, he's basically hired every single leader at Notion at this point, Harry. So you have to ask him about that. When you think back over your lessons on hiring, what are your single biggest lessons on what it takes to really get the best people into Notion?

I spoke to Ivan again before and he said, listen, he's basically hired every single leader at Notion at this point, Harry. So you have to ask him about that. When you think back over your lessons on hiring, what are your single biggest lessons on what it takes to really get the best people into Notion?

When you look back, what have been some of the biggest mistakes you've made? And what are some big lessons from those?

When you look back, what have been some of the biggest mistakes you've made? And what are some big lessons from those?

When you look back, what have been some of the biggest mistakes you've made? And what are some big lessons from those?

What was the hardest team to hire and the hardest function to build out?

What was the hardest team to hire and the hardest function to build out?

What was the hardest team to hire and the hardest function to build out?

How did you see it hurt you? inability to hire people, the people not having direction. What was it that was, oh, this is hurting us?

How did you see it hurt you? inability to hire people, the people not having direction. What was it that was, oh, this is hurting us?

How did you see it hurt you? inability to hire people, the people not having direction. What was it that was, oh, this is hurting us?

And if you want to build enterprise at some point, you've got to build outbound. And you've got to build an enterprise function. And you cannot continuously rely on product inbound. Exactly. As nice as that would be for anyone. Exactly. When was that moment when you realized that?

And if you want to build enterprise at some point, you've got to build outbound. And you've got to build an enterprise function. And you cannot continuously rely on product inbound. Exactly. As nice as that would be for anyone. Exactly. When was that moment when you realized that?

And if you want to build enterprise at some point, you've got to build outbound. And you've got to build an enterprise function. And you cannot continuously rely on product inbound. Exactly. As nice as that would be for anyone. Exactly. When was that moment when you realized that?

Slightly weird one and going off on a tangent, but I heard it before this and I was like, it's just a really thoughtful statement. And it was the hardest things in life are not iron or gold, but unmade decisions. What unmade decision does Notion have that is heavy? You can take a moment to think about it.

Slightly weird one and going off on a tangent, but I heard it before this and I was like, it's just a really thoughtful statement. And it was the hardest things in life are not iron or gold, but unmade decisions. What unmade decision does Notion have that is heavy? You can take a moment to think about it.