Ivana Hughes

This is the end of humanity as we know it.

I'm not saying, I don't think we know that everyone would die, although it's quite possible.

I don't think so.

It means all of life on the planet would be extinguished, although even that's possible.

But this is quite simply not the planet we live on today.

And then on top of it, there's the radiation effects.

And I can talk more about radiation.

And then there's this business of ozone layer destruction.

And that's somebody at Columbia who might...

actually knew quite well.

He passed away recently in his 90s.

His name was Mal Ruderman.

He was one of the first people who they wrote about in the 1970s about nitric oxide production as a consequence of nuclear war and the impact that this would have on the ozone layer.

And

That kind of research has been done also more recently with the new models, simulations, and so on.

Those estimates suggest that the war scenario I keep mentioning between US and Russia would result in 70% ozone layer destruction.

This is, again, this is not a place where you go out to sunbathe.

This is a place in which UV radiation is incredibly dangerous, not just to people, but it would also impact agricultural production because it would impact plants.

So again, this would be another hit on sort of food supplies.

But, you know...