Ivana Hughes
๐ค SpeakerAppearances Over Time
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So this, you know, the claim that I made a little earlier about,
about the United States actually having, in my mind, having the most to gain from pursuing a world free of nuclear weapons.
I was at a place called Wilton Park,
It's in the United Kingdom.
It was like being in a Jane Austen novel.
And it's a place where the UK's foreign ministry basically brings experts, diplomats, academics, and so on to discuss various issues all year long.
And one week a year, they devote to this nuclear nonproliferation treaty diplomacy.
And I was invited there last December.
And these meetings are held.
It was about 30 of us actually spoke, but it's a large room.
It's about 80 people.
And it was all very, very interactive.
And in one such exchange, I actually made this case that the United States has the most to gain from a world free of nuclear weapons.
And these meetings are held under what's called Chatham House rules.
So I can talk about what happened, but I can't talk about who said it.
So I'm not going to say who said it.
But a person responded to me and I had made a comment to their remarks.
and then made this comment about the U.S., and this person responded to me, after which I wasn't allowed, according to the rules, to respond.
So I'll tell you what the response was.
The response was, you're right, and I was shocked that they accepted this, you're right that the United States would be safer in a world free of nuclear weapons, but our allies would not be.