Ivana Hughes

And so because I wasn't allowed to respond in the room, I waited until it was after that session had ended.

And in the lunch line, I approached this person and I said, how would the American people feel if you told them that we're not pursuing nuclear disarmament because of our allies?

And take a guess what he responded to me.

He said, now you sound like Trump.

And I said, that's not an answer.

A person goes, you want an answer?

There would be no Europe.

It would all be Mother Russia.

So, you know, there's this, the idea- Well, they're deranged.

Yeah, yeah.

But I mean, seriously, like- They'd be better off anyway.

How are we accepting to be under mortal threat as a nation, as a people, as humanity, right?

All the time, JFK had another, he had so many brilliant statements and quotes and so on.

Another one was like, humanity was not meant to live in a prison awaiting its final destruction.

I mean, that was his view was like, we're all just sitting in this prison awaiting, you know, the destruction.

nuclear war destroying our world.

Yeah, I mean, I think the taboo is still there.

But I think some people are definitely pushing the envelope and pretending as if we really can fight and win a nuclear war.

What would be the win?

I think people think that you could have exchanges on, say, say that we gave Ukraine a few, you know, kind of low energy yield and low energy yield means Hiroshima bombs or, you know, that that that kind of thing.