Ivanka Trump

For people who have experienced, you know, a lot of hardship, sometimes they compartmentalize and it's like forward only.

And this whole part of her life she never talked about.

And I think when you're younger, you ask a lot less questions.

Like now I would tell everyone who's listening, like, really ask the questions, especially if people are a bit of a vault and are less inclined to look back in the past.

Because I, you know, all of her life experience very much shaped her.

That was in Mar-a-Lago on my childhood bed.

Very ornate.

Yeah.

She was really, I mean, she was impossibly glamorous.

So that's probably the 25-year-old version of me.

As, you know, there's a lot of truth in it.

And I think certain defense mechanisms we create for ourselves are actually healthy.

Because it was healthy for me not to be trusting before I had honed my own instincts and had—

Learn to understand people and read people.

So I think there was nothing wrong with a 25 or 27-year-old with my lived experience answering that way.

But I do let people in now.

Yeah.

Well, there was a level of aggression that like even today wouldn't exist with the paparazzi then.

Like to be shouting things and like reading quotes from tabloids to me as I'm leaving school.

To put this in context, this divorce happened.