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Izzy

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1930 total appearances

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

We were in this very group sauna situation. We do aromatherapy and stuff and there's just a lot of people in there. And right outside the sauna, the walls are glass, is a cold plunge pool and a hot tub, right? Yeah. I like saunas. They're very helpful health-wise. But for some reason, this sauna was burning my nose after like 12 minutes. I had to get out of there.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

We were in this very group sauna situation. We do aromatherapy and stuff and there's just a lot of people in there. And right outside the sauna, the walls are glass, is a cold plunge pool and a hot tub, right? Yeah. I like saunas. They're very helpful health-wise. But for some reason, this sauna was burning my nose after like 12 minutes. I had to get out of there.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

I got out of there, and I went into the cold plunge pool completely naked, came out of the cold plunge pool, and everybody in the sauna was clearly facing my direction. And I'm just like, man, if I were less cold than this, I'd be worried about shrinkage and stuff. Nah, it's freezing. I'm getting into that hot tub.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

I got out of there, and I went into the cold plunge pool completely naked, came out of the cold plunge pool, and everybody in the sauna was clearly facing my direction. And I'm just like, man, if I were less cold than this, I'd be worried about shrinkage and stuff. Nah, it's freezing. I'm getting into that hot tub.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

And it's not just that. It's the elements of everybody else's game that you've seen these highlights of over the years. It's Magic Johnson, no look, perfect, over the head, bounce passes, which you don't ever see. When we go back and we look at these highlights 20, 30 years from now, we're going to be more odd somehow than we are now.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

And it's not just that. It's the elements of everybody else's game that you've seen these highlights of over the years. It's Magic Johnson, no look, perfect, over the head, bounce passes, which you don't ever see. When we go back and we look at these highlights 20, 30 years from now, we're going to be more odd somehow than we are now.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

And I still argue, I said this on The Shadow Show, part of it is he's playing in Denver because if he was playing somewhere in Southern California, New York, Chicago, wherever else, you would probably speak highly, more highly of him, even more so. I think, as you said, in terms of the boredom of MVP voters,

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

And I still argue, I said this on The Shadow Show, part of it is he's playing in Denver because if he was playing somewhere in Southern California, New York, Chicago, wherever else, you would probably speak highly, more highly of him, even more so. I think, as you said, in terms of the boredom of MVP voters,

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

If they give this to Shea Gildress Alexander, which I believe the voters will do, and they have their sort of classic reasons as to why, I think it's one of the worst case, would be, one of the worst case of voter fatigue for an MVP than I've ever seen.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

If they give this to Shea Gildress Alexander, which I believe the voters will do, and they have their sort of classic reasons as to why, I think it's one of the worst case, would be, one of the worst case of voter fatigue for an MVP than I've ever seen.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

Because I was going to make this argument about winners in the NFL anyway, right? Winners do the boring stuff over and over and over again. The things that they know are going to win. And not everybody does that. Jokic does whatever it takes to win. He's so bored by it. He's like, oh, it's a double team. Okay, fine. It's just obvious. It comes to him so easily.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

Because I was going to make this argument about winners in the NFL anyway, right? Winners do the boring stuff over and over and over again. The things that they know are going to win. And not everybody does that. Jokic does whatever it takes to win. He's so bored by it. He's like, oh, it's a double team. Okay, fine. It's just obvious. It comes to him so easily.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

And then the skill with all that shot making is incredible. And yeah, of course he's playing the best basketball of his career, shooting 47% from three to make up for Russell Westbrook, who doesn't bring any floor spacing there. It's absolutely crazy. And I'm telling you, you will be more impressed by this 20 years from now than you are now.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

And then the skill with all that shot making is incredible. And yeah, of course he's playing the best basketball of his career, shooting 47% from three to make up for Russell Westbrook, who doesn't bring any floor spacing there. It's absolutely crazy. And I'm telling you, you will be more impressed by this 20 years from now than you are now.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

Well, that's another thing. I think as opposed to sort of the thing we did to Peyton Manning, the things we did to Aaron Rodgers, hey, you need to win another one.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

Well, that's another thing. I think as opposed to sort of the thing we did to Peyton Manning, the things we did to Aaron Rodgers, hey, you need to win another one.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

I'm of the opinion that if Jokic doesn't win two or more championships, all of his teammates are going to live the rest of their lives regretting that they didn't do it for him, thinking of themselves as failures because how good do you have to be as the leader of the team?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

I'm of the opinion that if Jokic doesn't win two or more championships, all of his teammates are going to live the rest of their lives regretting that they didn't do it for him, thinking of themselves as failures because how good do you have to be as the leader of the team?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

But we're arguing, or you're arguing that Nicole Jokic is doing the equivalent of three-yard dump-offs every time, and he's not. He's doing what you say Patrick Mahomes does, figures out everything the defense throws at him, and sometimes it's spectacular.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Local Hour: Michael Jordan vs. Nikola Jokic

But we're arguing, or you're arguing that Nicole Jokic is doing the equivalent of three-yard dump-offs every time, and he's not. He's doing what you say Patrick Mahomes does, figures out everything the defense throws at him, and sometimes it's spectacular.