J. Kyle Mann

I already have an inkling of which way it's going to go, but this is the witching hour.

So I'm going to embrace the unpredictability and the idea that this might actually be a good pod.

It's going to be a great pod.

Here's the thing.

Justin is only saying this so he can work the markets a la certain members of the administration as far as the outcomes go.

This man would tank this podcast if it meant he could get a little extra coin out of it.

I appreciate that manner of thinking.

I don't know that I completely agree.

I think we got to show up for the people.

I think we got to show up in the way that the Pistons showed up, to be honest with you.

We can have a stinker now and again, and people will forgive us and forget.

But then we got to turn it to beef stew.

We got to be turning away people in the room.

I cannot wait to check this book out.

I mean, the reviews have been raves across the board.

Justin, I presume given that you're leading a talk, you have read the book.

And my question for you is, are Kyle and I featured as some of the titular American men?

We're in the muse appendices in the back.

Yeah.

That's so kind of you to say.