J. Kyle Mann

We end up with some conversations about players who are accessories to winning in a way where we enter these interesting conversations about impact.

And I think we'll get into some of these guys who have different roles away from initiators and how do we properly value them against others.

you know, initiators, handlers on teams that aren't as good.

I just think that it kind of, but I like the starter thing too.

I guess, I don't know.

The starter thing is also, we're doing it purely on merit and there's also all the other kind of factors that enter into it about like popularity, you know, it's just criteria can differ from person to person.

Cat kind of fired his bullet trying to play, playing for the Dominican thing.

And it was like, and then there was the whole Calipari thing to it too.

And it's like, you know, he's wanting to go back.

It's that wasn't, that's an interesting case.

Do you guys, we're all, we're all of the age that you might remember this, but do you all remember like in the late nineties when McDonald's had the all-star ballots, like the printed ballots at the stores?

Do you all remember this?

Real hanging Chad situation.

A lot of, you know, a lot of room to really work the ballots if you want to.

I remember I was in such a desert of enthusiasm for the NBA because I'm from college basketball country.

And people were just like, oh, God, you still hear some of that stuff?

But I remember I grabbed a gigantic – I was so excited about it.

I grabbed a gigantic stack of them and took them to school, to my friends, to even my team, my coaches.

And I remember one of my friends distinctly saying, nobody gives a shit about that, dude.

I was like – I just –