Jacinda Ardern
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I had certain mantras that would run through my head. And the one that was most common was just, let this be the right decision. Let's be the right decision. And that didn't always mean the most popular decision. I could carry the weight of an unpopular decision if it felt like it was the right one. I could wear a lot if it felt like the right one. But just let it be the right thing to do.
I had certain mantras that would run through my head. And the one that was most common was just, let this be the right decision. Let's be the right decision. And that didn't always mean the most popular decision. I could carry the weight of an unpopular decision if it felt like it was the right one. I could wear a lot if it felt like the right one. But just let it be the right thing to do.
I had certain mantras that would run through my head. And the one that was most common was just, let this be the right decision. Let's be the right decision. And that didn't always mean the most popular decision. I could carry the weight of an unpopular decision if it felt like it was the right one. I could wear a lot if it felt like the right one. But just let it be the right thing to do.
One of the strengths of all of those things that I thought would hold me back of a little bit of that self-doubt was actually I would prepare. I would bring in experts. I would use people who had the knowledge and expertise to give me the best possible advice. I would read everything I could about a challenge that was presenting itself. And then I would overlay my values and my intuition.
One of the strengths of all of those things that I thought would hold me back of a little bit of that self-doubt was actually I would prepare. I would bring in experts. I would use people who had the knowledge and expertise to give me the best possible advice. I would read everything I could about a challenge that was presenting itself. And then I would overlay my values and my intuition.
One of the strengths of all of those things that I thought would hold me back of a little bit of that self-doubt was actually I would prepare. I would bring in experts. I would use people who had the knowledge and expertise to give me the best possible advice. I would read everything I could about a challenge that was presenting itself. And then I would overlay my values and my intuition.
Yeah, you knew as much about COVID as a doctor did because you were studying it every night. I was mocked for that in some cases by the people I worked with. This is sitting between me and going to sleep now, this and you. And so for me, that idea of the right decision was never just about instinct and values. It was also about... Having the right information? Having the right information.
Yeah, you knew as much about COVID as a doctor did because you were studying it every night. I was mocked for that in some cases by the people I worked with. This is sitting between me and going to sleep now, this and you. And so for me, that idea of the right decision was never just about instinct and values. It was also about... Having the right information? Having the right information.
Yeah, you knew as much about COVID as a doctor did because you were studying it every night. I was mocked for that in some cases by the people I worked with. This is sitting between me and going to sleep now, this and you. And so for me, that idea of the right decision was never just about instinct and values. It was also about... Having the right information? Having the right information.
And, you know, that trait, that trait of imposter syndrome drove me to lead like that. That was a strength in the end.
And, you know, that trait, that trait of imposter syndrome drove me to lead like that. That was a strength in the end.
And, you know, that trait, that trait of imposter syndrome drove me to lead like that. That was a strength in the end.
And have the humility to know that you don't know all the answers and to bring in the people who might and to draw on that expertise.
And have the humility to know that you don't know all the answers and to bring in the people who might and to draw on that expertise.
And have the humility to know that you don't know all the answers and to bring in the people who might and to draw on that expertise.
And to say from time to time, I don't know. Because it's very different than I don't have a plan. And you can lead and be open about what you know and what you don't. And actually it can build trust. FDR was that kind of leader. And he communicated so directly to people during crisis, during the depression and war times, what he knew and what he didn't know.
And to say from time to time, I don't know. Because it's very different than I don't have a plan. And you can lead and be open about what you know and what you don't. And actually it can build trust. FDR was that kind of leader. And he communicated so directly to people during crisis, during the depression and war times, what he knew and what he didn't know.
And to say from time to time, I don't know. Because it's very different than I don't have a plan. And you can lead and be open about what you know and what you don't. And actually it can build trust. FDR was that kind of leader. And he communicated so directly to people during crisis, during the depression and war times, what he knew and what he didn't know.
And I think people built trust around him as a result. Who were other leaders you've admired? Well, I think, you know, when I look at the United States, I look at times of crisis. I mean, I do draw back to FDR because there was an empathy to him. And maybe that came from personal circumstance, but it manifested in the way that he did the job. In New Zealand, we have similar political leaders.
And I think people built trust around him as a result. Who were other leaders you've admired? Well, I think, you know, when I look at the United States, I look at times of crisis. I mean, I do draw back to FDR because there was an empathy to him. And maybe that came from personal circumstance, but it manifested in the way that he did the job. In New Zealand, we have similar political leaders.