Jacinda Ardern

And I think people built trust around him as a result. Who were other leaders you've admired? Well, I think, you know, when I look at the United States, I look at times of crisis. I mean, I do draw back to FDR because there was an empathy to him. And maybe that came from personal circumstance, but it manifested in the way that he did the job. In New Zealand, we have similar political leaders.

I remember as a... child our cat was named norm and my father named him us after a prime minister norman kirk and as i grew older i read a little bit more about him and he was asked in a prime time interview once you know what you know his greatest achievement is such an uh you know an entree into spouting off whatever policy as a politician you might have

I remember as a... child our cat was named norm and my father named him us after a prime minister norman kirk and as i grew older i read a little bit more about him and he was asked in a prime time interview once you know what you know his greatest achievement is such an uh you know an entree into spouting off whatever policy as a politician you might have

I remember as a... child our cat was named norm and my father named him us after a prime minister norman kirk and as i grew older i read a little bit more about him and he was asked in a prime time interview once you know what you know his greatest achievement is such an uh you know an entree into spouting off whatever policy as a politician you might have

He said the letters that he received after they increased benefits for the most vulnerable, one letter where a woman said she could finally afford shoes, new shoes. And what a relief it was to her. And here was this moment with this prime minister, you know.

He said the letters that he received after they increased benefits for the most vulnerable, one letter where a woman said she could finally afford shoes, new shoes. And what a relief it was to her. And here was this moment with this prime minister, you know.

He said the letters that he received after they increased benefits for the most vulnerable, one letter where a woman said she could finally afford shoes, new shoes. And what a relief it was to her. And here was this moment with this prime minister, you know.

huge stature he was a solid a solid man with such presence but speaking so softly and quietly about a woman being able to now afford shoes new shoes and it just stayed with me the fact that he was someone running a country in an individual moment could be so meaningful to him so i i've been surrounded by great examples and perhaps it started with my parents

huge stature he was a solid a solid man with such presence but speaking so softly and quietly about a woman being able to now afford shoes new shoes and it just stayed with me the fact that he was someone running a country in an individual moment could be so meaningful to him so i i've been surrounded by great examples and perhaps it started with my parents

huge stature he was a solid a solid man with such presence but speaking so softly and quietly about a woman being able to now afford shoes new shoes and it just stayed with me the fact that he was someone running a country in an individual moment could be so meaningful to him so i i've been surrounded by great examples and perhaps it started with my parents

When you're in politics, people always expect you to spout off all of these, your political role models. But mine is an Antarctic explorer, you know, who actually failed multiple times.

When you're in politics, people always expect you to spout off all of these, your political role models. But mine is an Antarctic explorer, you know, who actually failed multiple times.

When you're in politics, people always expect you to spout off all of these, your political role models. But mine is an Antarctic explorer, you know, who actually failed multiple times.

He did not get there. But he saved his men. He saved his men. And he had such a humility in his leadership as well.

He did not get there. But he saved his men. He saved his men. And he had such a humility in his leadership as well.

He did not get there. But he saved his men. He saved his men. And he had such a humility in his leadership as well.

It says, optimism is true moral courage. And I think there are so many reasons that resonates with me. And one is that I think we treat hope and optimism often as if they're naive. And yet the way that he talks about optimism is that actually it's a courageous act and it's a deliberate decision.

It says, optimism is true moral courage. And I think there are so many reasons that resonates with me. And one is that I think we treat hope and optimism often as if they're naive. And yet the way that he talks about optimism is that actually it's a courageous act and it's a deliberate decision.

It says, optimism is true moral courage. And I think there are so many reasons that resonates with me. And one is that I think we treat hope and optimism often as if they're naive. And yet the way that he talks about optimism is that actually it's a courageous act and it's a deliberate decision.

And in the circumstances that he was in and when he's quoting lines like this, he was basically stranded in Antarctica with no hope of rescue, a sunken ship. Yeah. You just knew those men were going to die. Oh, yeah. Well, and yet, in that moment, what a courageous act it is to be optimistic.