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Jack Clark

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378 total appearances

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Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

And I can't work out if this is like a really fun country club style job or if it paints some different picture.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

Right.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

You're going to tell me.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

Where, do you do that?

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

I find myself staring into the face of change that we haven't experienced in perhaps a century.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

And I don't know how we'll respond.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

A hundred years ago, C.S.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

Lewis wrote a book called The Screwtape Letters, which is about a demon in hell whose job is writing letters to their boss, a senior demon, a manager demon, about their attempts to corrupt a person on Earth.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

And they have a letter where they say, wonderful news, my human has just got an invention called the telephone.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

LAUGHTER

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

And the telephone means that whenever my person is alone and would otherwise introspect on themselves and be drawn closer to God, they will instead pick up the phone and call their friends, which brings them closer to hell.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

Now, what does that get right and wrong?

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

What it gets right is that things like phones actually massively changed how people relate to one another.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

Yes.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

But I don't think that we're all like doomed to hell because we have phones.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

Well.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

Well.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

I realize now I picked the wrong example, but it gets at the shape of this, right?

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

We are going to experience immense change, and we're looking at it, and we're trying to think through what it means for how we relate to us as people, and it will change how we relate to one another.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

I have a high tolerance for weird phone calls at this point in time.