Jack Crivici-Kramer

Or is that just like a starting point for your brainstorm for new skits?

Tell me a little bit more about what's normal and do the opposite.

We're all competing in the attention economy to two masters of keeping and attracting attention.

What's your secret to social media success?

Barnum.

Who else?

I mean, just in this interview, you guys have mentioned Steve Jobs, Brian Chesky.

You've mentioned the Harlem Gold Trotters, The Grateful Dead, Cirque du Soleil, Dave Matthews.

To borrow your what-if framework, wouldn't it be cool if there were 32 teams?

Team number two, the Party Animals, has more followers than any Major League Baseball team.

True.

Playing hundreds of games.

You got the Texas tailgaters.

Is your goal to be bigger than Major League Baseball?

You've got the XFL trying to make a comeback.

You have the X Games now considering a touring model instead of just once a year in Aspen.

We've covered his story on the pod a few times, yeah.

Well, we love your fan-first mentality.

And we got to ask, is there an IPO in the future where you can give fans partial ownership of the organization?

Well, normally Nick and I whip up the takeaway of the story, but we're going to give you the honor.