Jack Crivici-Kramer

What are the highlights of banana ball?

Yeah, it is.

I'm the son of a New York Yankees fan who's very much a traditionalist.

He loves that the Yankees had their no facial hair policy, for example.

I figure he would hate the bananas, you know?

And so at first, I had a little reluctance to what you were doing because I thought it was disrupting tradition.

But now that I've actually learned about the rules of banana ball, I'm like, this sounds like a frigging blast.

Like, you said there's no walks.

Yet he's – instead of a ball four and a walk –

A ball four means the runner may start running not just to first base, but to second, third, and fourth base.

And he can go as far as he wants until the defense throws the ball to all nine players on the field.

Joe Torre would spank you if you tried doing that.

Another huge inning with baseball is blowouts, but banana ball is more like match play in golf where each inning is a point that can be won.

And so the game remains close.

And then the final inning is like bonus ball.

So even if you're down a few points in the final inning, you can still win the game if you score a few runs.

It's just really impressive.

There's a lot of actionable lessons from what both of you just said.

One I just want to explore a little bit more is what's normal, do the opposite.

Have you seen great examples of companies doing that outside of the Savannah Bananas?