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Jack Lawrence

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2396 total appearances

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What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

And the theory is that, and this is, I have to be very careful because I know how crazy this sounds.

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

Somebody in the US government thought that I had or could get access to a foreign country's military secrets.

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

And so that they wanted to get me into custody and get me to get access to these.

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

And they'd be like, well, you got this whole case, but we'll let it go if you work for us.

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

And that's what the three recruitment attempts were.

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

And I kept turning them down.

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

And then they're like, well, screw it.

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

Let's just make him an offer he can't refuse.

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

If you read the books by the CIA recruitment officers or even history release documents, they've done stuff like this all the time.

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

In 2001, I moved to Russia and I lived in a city initially that used to be a closed city, which foreigners are not allowed.

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

And I married a Russian citizen and her parents worked in the factory, which makes Russian military planes.

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

And they had not only access, but direct knowledge of systems on those airplanes because they were senior engineers, both of them.

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

And so the working theory is, and there is some evidence to support this, I cannot prove this, but if you look at everything else that's been in my case, this is the most probable, especially the amount of smoke and the things I have pointing towards this, is that some stupid, I don't know, low-level CIA agent had a wet dream and thought that I could turn my wife's parents or something.

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

Can I prove it's all connected to that?

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

No.

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

But the other theories are far less.

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

I mean, what?

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

This is just some bumbling mistake that the four embassies and the entire U.S.

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

government has doubled quadruple down on?

What I survived
The tiktok Fugitive Part 3

What's the possibility of that?