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Jack Lawrence

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

And that was that.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

Chris leaves North Korea and continues on with his life for the next two years, hearing absolutely nothing about the trip or any issues the FBI might have with what had gone on.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

Until one day he gets a message.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

Now, instead of ignoring the situation, he's not a US citizen after all, or running away even, Chris's first thought is to find out what on earth is going on and did the FBI want to speak with him?

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

So he jumps on the phone and gets himself an American attorney who can subsequently reach out to the FBI and find out what's going on.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

As Chris says, Virgil would seemingly go above and beyond in which to help the FBI with their inquiries as to what he was doing in North Korea.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

He would in fact also on more than one occasion fly himself to New York to sit down with them for further discussions, handing over his phone voluntarily to be looked at.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

I mean, it doesn't exactly sound like the actions of a criminal mastermind.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

Nonetheless, Virgil would eventually, like so many, take a plea deal instead of risking a trial.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

It is a situation that I'm all too familiar with in my other show, One Minute Remaining.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

Men and women accused of crimes that they didn't do will so often agree to plea deals because if they choose to go to trial, they're at risk of incredibly high sentences should they lose.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

The prosecution will usually come to them and say, look, you say you're guilty and we'll make sure you do, say, 10 years.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

But if you decide to go to trial and you lose, you could be looking at 30 years or a life sentence.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

So inevitably, many will take the deal.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

Chris, although being told by this American lawyer to just forget it, is still understandably uncomfortable with what's happening.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

He decided once more to reach out again to the FBI and see if he can get everything cleared up.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

His feelings would be right, because unbeknownst to Chris, the US had decided to proceed with actions against him.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

And that meant a grand jury going on thousands of miles away from where he was.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

Real it got indeed, as Chris is flanked by two officers who now escort him down to the airport police station and holding cells, which is in the basement of the airport.

What I survived
North Korean Crypto scam? P2

Chris, not yet arrested at this stage, in fact says that officers seemingly didn't quite know what to do with him.