Jack Lawrence

They had these rooms without a roof.

And so they'd lock you in a room without a roof, and you could walk around in a space the same size as your room and get some sunshine.

But I was there in the winter, so there was no sunshine.

And halftime, you go up, and it was raining, and now you're standing in a freaking rain anyways in the winter or snow.

It was raining or snowing, it would mix.

And even during that one hour, they still just took you with your own room.

And he says, I'm going to put you in a room that the guys that are in there, they're kind of clean because he says some of the rooms here are pretty nasty.

But these guys are fairly clean.

And so...

I, you know, those are the only three that in that prison, but then I was transferred.

So I was with other prisoners and prisoner buses, other prisons, but that's the one I was in the longest and initially.

Right.

And so, um, the senior guy, Vardo was the oldest.

I think he was in his forties, maybe fifties.

He had been held in there almost two years before his family even knew where he was.

Cause once you get in, you can't make phone calls out.

Well, in my case, I had Deborah from the U.S.

Embassy coming to visit, so she had made some phone calls.

But otherwise, there were people on there sometimes for years before anybody knew where they were.

And he was there like almost two years.