Jack Posobiec

We'll get the link and I suggest people to read the article.

It's a very interesting article, very well-written article.

I am a Christian nationalist, I am Catholic as well.

And I would point – my point of starting is the beginning paragraph when you quote Steve Bannon articulating the point that a political –

may be a vehicle of divine providence and even an instrument of divine will.

The reason what I really wanted to chew over with you is this idea as whether Pope Leo might be

a unifying point against Christian nationalism and I sort of think basically what you were just saying is that most people inside of the MAGA movement most people inside of the Christian nationalist movement will look at Pope Leo and they won't see him they don't see him as an American and I think that's why the conclave might have made a misstep on that if they thought he was going to be able to neuter Donald Trump they see him as a Latin American

I mean, he has Peruvian citizenship, and his thought is more typically, I would suggest, Latin American than North American.

Professor Reyes, grateful for you coming on the show to explain your thesis to us.

Come back.

In the meantime, where do people go on social media to keep up with your research and your writings?

they can go to LinkedIn and look for me Alejandro Reyes and I'm the only one I think in Hong Kong on LinkedIn well okay Alejandro Reyes professor at Hong Kong University very grateful for you coming on the show and for staying up in the early hours of 2am in the morning get some sleep relax this weekend and thank you very much for joining us on the show God bless for now folks we'll be back in two short minutes after this break

Welcome back.

Well, my next guest, Professor Bruce Schneier, has co-written a fascinating book called Rewiring Democracy, How AI Will Transform Our Politics, Government and Citizenship.

Professor Schneier, thanks for coming on the show.

Let's kick off straight away.

You make the claim that AI will change democracy.

The only question is how.

Just give me two minutes as an introduction off the back of that as your motive for writing the book, please.

I'm going to talk about your insights when it comes to justice later on in this interview.