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This video is wild. It's one of those that when you watch it, your jaw just drops and you're like, what the hell is this? Tal takes them to his van and then opens the back doors up and there's like two racks of computers, routers, switches, servers. Inside it looks like your classic FBI spy van. There's like a desk and monitors and chairs and electronics panels, antennas. It's nuts.
This video is wild. It's one of those that when you watch it, your jaw just drops and you're like, what the hell is this? Tal takes them to his van and then opens the back doors up and there's like two racks of computers, routers, switches, servers. Inside it looks like your classic FBI spy van. There's like a desk and monitors and chairs and electronics panels, antennas. It's nuts.
And Tal is saying, yeah, so this is a $9 million spy van. And here, let me demonstrate.
And Tal is saying, yeah, so this is a $9 million spy van. And here, let me demonstrate.
He proceeds to use WeSpear to lock on to these two people walking by, and somehow it grabs their data, and he's now in their phones spying on them. It's a crazy piece of technology. But it's even crazier that he was willing to show all this off on camera to be published in Forbes.
He proceeds to use WeSpear to lock on to these two people walking by, and somehow it grabs their data, and he's now in their phones spying on them. It's a crazy piece of technology. But it's even crazier that he was willing to show all this off on camera to be published in Forbes.
Okay, so Forbes publishes this video in September 2019. It rippled through the world, of course, but it also landed on the screens of the people within the Cyprus government. And they watched it in disbelief. A combination of both the police and the intelligence agency of Cyprus was shocked by this. They were like, you're advertising more sophisticated spy tech than we have in our own government.
Okay, so Forbes publishes this video in September 2019. It rippled through the world, of course, but it also landed on the screens of the people within the Cyprus government. And they watched it in disbelief. A combination of both the police and the intelligence agency of Cyprus was shocked by this. They were like, you're advertising more sophisticated spy tech than we have in our own government.
But I think the main thing that the Cyprus government got mad about is the fact that he was advertising this business that was being conducted out of Cyprus. I mean, this whole business is questionable. Espionage is illegal, you know? And here he's selling tools to do it to who knows who. There are a lot of ethics at play here.
But I think the main thing that the Cyprus government got mad about is the fact that he was advertising this business that was being conducted out of Cyprus. I mean, this whole business is questionable. Espionage is illegal, you know? And here he's selling tools to do it to who knows who. There are a lot of ethics at play here.
So a few months after this video aired, the Cyprus police decided to just take it down, take it all down.
So a few months after this video aired, the Cyprus police decided to just take it down, take it all down.
It's not clear what crimes Tal Dillion committed, but the Cyprus government made it clear that they just don't want him running this business in their country. Tal got the message and agreed to pack it up. He had to move this whole operation somewhere new. and looked across the Mediterranean Sea and saw Greece.
It's not clear what crimes Tal Dillion committed, but the Cyprus government made it clear that they just don't want him running this business in their country. Tal got the message and agreed to pack it up. He had to move this whole operation somewhere new. and looked across the Mediterranean Sea and saw Greece.
Tal began working on the paperwork to reestablish his company in Greece. And the whole time he seemed to be a bit sore at the Cyprus government for ruining his plans.
Tal began working on the paperwork to reestablish his company in Greece. And the whole time he seemed to be a bit sore at the Cyprus government for ruining his plans.
And this, I think, put pressure on the Cyprus government to change their position.
And this, I think, put pressure on the Cyprus government to change their position.
Now, you might be wondering, is this spyware, malware, virus thing legal? It's just code. It's just an app. To answer that, let's go to Sudan. In 2003, the Sudanese government had an armed militia called the Janjaweed, and they started conducting genocide on the people of Sudan.
Now, you might be wondering, is this spyware, malware, virus thing legal? It's just code. It's just an app. To answer that, let's go to Sudan. In 2003, the Sudanese government had an armed militia called the Janjaweed, and they started conducting genocide on the people of Sudan.