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So a few months after this video aired, the Cyprus police decided to just take it down, take it all down.
It's not clear what crimes Tal Dillion committed, but the Cyprus government made it clear that they just don't want him running this business in their country. Tal got the message and agreed to pack it up. He had to move this whole operation somewhere new. and looked across the Mediterranean Sea and saw Greece.
It's not clear what crimes Tal Dillion committed, but the Cyprus government made it clear that they just don't want him running this business in their country. Tal got the message and agreed to pack it up. He had to move this whole operation somewhere new. and looked across the Mediterranean Sea and saw Greece.
Tal began working on the paperwork to reestablish his company in Greece. And the whole time he seemed to be a bit sore at the Cyprus government for ruining his plans.
Tal began working on the paperwork to reestablish his company in Greece. And the whole time he seemed to be a bit sore at the Cyprus government for ruining his plans.
And this, I think, put pressure on the Cyprus government to change their position.
And this, I think, put pressure on the Cyprus government to change their position.
Now, you might be wondering, is this spyware, malware, virus thing legal? It's just code. It's just an app. To answer that, let's go to Sudan. In 2003, the Sudanese government had an armed militia called the Janjaweed, and they started conducting genocide on the people of Sudan.
Now, you might be wondering, is this spyware, malware, virus thing legal? It's just code. It's just an app. To answer that, let's go to Sudan. In 2003, the Sudanese government had an armed militia called the Janjaweed, and they started conducting genocide on the people of Sudan.
It's believed that over a million children have been killed or tortured or raped or injured or just lost a parent in the last 20 years from this group. And they've been accused of committing crimes against humanity so many times. The killings settled down for a while. But recently there's been another flare-up. Civil war has broke out in Sudan. The Janjaweed are back.
It's believed that over a million children have been killed or tortured or raped or injured or just lost a parent in the last 20 years from this group. And they've been accused of committing crimes against humanity so many times. The killings settled down for a while. But recently there's been another flare-up. Civil war has broke out in Sudan. The Janjaweed are back.
But they changed their name now. And now they're called the Rapid Support Forces. And the boss of them is Hermedi. And Hermedi is one of the richest people in Sudan. And seems to be funding the war against the people of Sudan. Now, Crofton, the reporter we've been talking to in this episode, his specialty is tracking airplanes.
But they changed their name now. And now they're called the Rapid Support Forces. And the boss of them is Hermedi. And Hermedi is one of the richest people in Sudan. And seems to be funding the war against the people of Sudan. Now, Crofton, the reporter we've been talking to in this episode, his specialty is tracking airplanes.
And he was particularly zoomed in on the planes that Tal was getting on and was trying to figure out if his flights had some connections with the business and his customers.
And he was particularly zoomed in on the planes that Tal was getting on and was trying to figure out if his flights had some connections with the business and his customers.
So if Tal is selling his spyware to people in Sudan who are using it to kill innocent civilians, then how much of that responsibility should fall back onto Tal? The kit he has for sale can be weaponized against innocent people. Militia groups who are actively killing their citizens, attempting genocide, and are accused of crimes against humanity now have this spyware in their hands and can use it?
So if Tal is selling his spyware to people in Sudan who are using it to kill innocent civilians, then how much of that responsibility should fall back onto Tal? The kit he has for sale can be weaponized against innocent people. Militia groups who are actively killing their citizens, attempting genocide, and are accused of crimes against humanity now have this spyware in their hands and can use it?
I think conducting weapons deals with Sudan's militia groups should be illegal. But is this spyware a weapon? So anyway, that was one of the trade deals that Crofton was tracking by watching Tal's flights in and out of Sudan.
I think conducting weapons deals with Sudan's militia groups should be illegal. But is this spyware a weapon? So anyway, that was one of the trade deals that Crofton was tracking by watching Tal's flights in and out of Sudan.
Why not just establish a base in Israel, his home country, where he's a military veteran there? He knows people there. He can just operate out of there. But I have a theory. I believe Tal really likes what the NSO group is doing, which is creating mobile spyware and selling it to governments around the world. But he also saw all the heat and scrutiny that NSO group was under.