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Sophie pulls down the back seat so the guys can climb through the car, which will take a while. It's a tight space. And this is where they split up, though. Sophie goes right to the front door of the building to try to use her social engineering skills to get into the building.
Sophie pulls down the back seat so the guys can climb through the car, which will take a while. It's a tight space. And this is where they split up, though. Sophie goes right to the front door of the building to try to use her social engineering skills to get into the building.
Okay, so while she's making her way into different rooms and getting a solid lay of the land, Deviant and Rob climb out of the trunk of the car and come out of the car. Climbing out of the trunk directly would be weird, so they had to sneak through into the car and then exit through the regular doors to look normal.
Okay, so while she's making her way into different rooms and getting a solid lay of the land, Deviant and Rob climb out of the trunk of the car and come out of the car. Climbing out of the trunk directly would be weird, so they had to sneak through into the car and then exit through the regular doors to look normal.
He did. And Drew was able to tailgate into the building too. This is where he just waited near a door until someone was going in or out. And then he just went in after them without having to use a badge. Day one was a success. All three teams got into sensitive areas and showed their contact how they got in. They took photos and were able to leave without being detected or caught.
He did. And Drew was able to tailgate into the building too. This is where he just waited near a door until someone was going in or out. And then he just went in after them without having to use a badge. Day one was a success. All three teams got into sensitive areas and showed their contact how they got in. They took photos and were able to leave without being detected or caught.
So they decided to do it all again the next day, but this time be a little more sloppy. you know, like standing near a locked door a little more obviously and actually looking like you're waiting for someone to come open it for you. And sure enough, somebody did come open it and didn't challenge them and held the door open for them.
So they decided to do it all again the next day, but this time be a little more sloppy. you know, like standing near a locked door a little more obviously and actually looking like you're waiting for someone to come open it for you. And sure enough, somebody did come open it and didn't challenge them and held the door open for them.
Or they might have shouted at someone, hey, can you hold that door open for me? Thanks. It was...
Or they might have shouted at someone, hey, can you hold that door open for me? Thanks. It was...
Their outer perimeter was very secure, but it seemed like that was the main layer of defense. To properly secure a building, you want to do defense in depth. And not just one gate at the front, but many gates the deeper you're going. And they didn't encounter that.
Their outer perimeter was very secure, but it seemed like that was the main layer of defense. To properly secure a building, you want to do defense in depth. And not just one gate at the front, but many gates the deeper you're going. And they didn't encounter that.
So now that they've accomplished all their objectives by getting into all the sensitive areas that they were tasked to get into, it was time to step it up a bit or step it down, depending on how you look at it.
So now that they've accomplished all their objectives by getting into all the sensitive areas that they were tasked to get into, it was time to step it up a bit or step it down, depending on how you look at it.
One of the other teams just got in their car and left, and then security caught the third one and just asked them, are you supposed to be here? And they said, no, thanks for asking. I've been here all week, and nobody's asked me that. With that, their engagement with this client was over.
One of the other teams just got in their car and left, and then security caught the third one and just asked them, are you supposed to be here? And they said, no, thanks for asking. I've been here all week, and nobody's asked me that. With that, their engagement with this client was over.
The client loved hearing all the different ways that they were able to defeat security that week, and they worked with security to fix all the things that they noticed in their assessment. It was a great training exercise for everyone involved at the facility. Wow. So thank you so much for sharing with us the way you see the world.
The client loved hearing all the different ways that they were able to defeat security that week, and they worked with security to fix all the things that they noticed in their assessment. It was a great training exercise for everyone involved at the facility. Wow. So thank you so much for sharing with us the way you see the world.
A big thank you to Deviant Aleph for coming on the show and sharing these stories with us. You should be able to easily find him online by just searching his name pretty much anywhere. Deviant Aleph, which is spelled O-L-L-A-M. He's on YouTube, Instagram, Mastodon, Blue Sky, and Twitter. Or you could just look on his own website, which is deviating.net. I'll have all these links in the show notes.
A big thank you to Deviant Aleph for coming on the show and sharing these stories with us. You should be able to easily find him online by just searching his name pretty much anywhere. Deviant Aleph, which is spelled O-L-L-A-M. He's on YouTube, Instagram, Mastodon, Blue Sky, and Twitter. Or you could just look on his own website, which is deviating.net. I'll have all these links in the show notes.