Jack Recider
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And this camera was trying to say, hackers are going to soon break through and get everything. But the thing is that firewalls don't have a percentage. And it's great that Jim knows a lot about IT and can easily spot every one of these bad attempts at showing him that there's a problem on his computer.
And this camera was trying to say, hackers are going to soon break through and get everything. But the thing is that firewalls don't have a percentage. And it's great that Jim knows a lot about IT and can easily spot every one of these bad attempts at showing him that there's a problem on his computer.
Now, these scammers are not sophisticated at all. Their scam is really basic, but their method of collecting payment is crazy ridiculous. What they should do is just act like a normal company and set up a website where you enter in your credit card details and send them money.
Now, these scammers are not sophisticated at all. Their scam is really basic, but their method of collecting payment is crazy ridiculous. What they should do is just act like a normal company and set up a website where you enter in your credit card details and send them money.
But they can't do that because payment processors will quickly spot and shut them down and freeze their money, maybe even charge them a fee. So Stripe and PayPal are just out of the question here, which means they've got to come up with some creative alternative ways to get money from you.
But they can't do that because payment processors will quickly spot and shut them down and freeze their money, maybe even charge them a fee. So Stripe and PayPal are just out of the question here, which means they've got to come up with some creative alternative ways to get money from you.
Yeah, so I'm curious on that. How do they launder it? Because if you give someone an eBay card, they're not going to buy something on eBay. They're probably selling that for pennies on the dollar.
Yeah, so I'm curious on that. How do they launder it? Because if you give someone an eBay card, they're not going to buy something on eBay. They're probably selling that for pennies on the dollar.
This always seems surprising to me. To convince your victim to hang up the phone, go drive to the store, buy a gift card, then drive back home and call the scammer back up to give them the gift card details. I just think you're going to lose your victim every time in that process. And on top of that, they're only getting half the value that's on the card. But this seems to be pretty effective.
This always seems surprising to me. To convince your victim to hang up the phone, go drive to the store, buy a gift card, then drive back home and call the scammer back up to give them the gift card details. I just think you're going to lose your victim every time in that process. And on top of that, they're only getting half the value that's on the card. But this seems to be pretty effective.
I mean, these scam centers are making quite a bit of money this way. And I guess this means that even though the scam is hilariously bad and the method of collecting money is ridiculously complex, the thing that makes this work is the numbers, the relentless attempts at scamming people. If they try over and over and over and over, they'll eventually get people to pay them.
I mean, these scam centers are making quite a bit of money this way. And I guess this means that even though the scam is hilariously bad and the method of collecting money is ridiculously complex, the thing that makes this work is the numbers, the relentless attempts at scamming people. If they try over and over and over and over, they'll eventually get people to pay them.
Now, of course, some victims don't want to send gift cards. So the scammers say, that's fine. There's another way. Send us cash.
Now, of course, some victims don't want to send gift cards. So the scammers say, that's fine. There's another way. Send us cash.
Like, I don't want to be victim-blaming here, but come on. How colorblind do you have to be to not see these giant red flags? One of the scams that Jim sees often is called a refund scam, and it might start out with a phone call that sounds like this.
Like, I don't want to be victim-blaming here, but come on. How colorblind do you have to be to not see these giant red flags? One of the scams that Jim sees often is called a refund scam, and it might start out with a phone call that sounds like this.
This is a real voicemail or phone call that somebody got. And people are falling for this and calling up the number to you and me. That phone call sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? Like it's a crappy robo voice and it's not fooling us. But just think about the mechanics of this call. I mean, they're clearly using some text-to-speech software, right?
This is a real voicemail or phone call that somebody got. And people are falling for this and calling up the number to you and me. That phone call sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? Like it's a crappy robo voice and it's not fooling us. But just think about the mechanics of this call. I mean, they're clearly using some text-to-speech software, right?
And I don't know why, but they're using a terrible version and have terrible English. But technology is rapidly improving. There's way better software out there today. And I just wonder, you know, someday the scammers are going to upgrade and use the good stuff. Let me demonstrate. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to improve this whole scam attempt. Are you ready?
And I don't know why, but they're using a terrible version and have terrible English. But technology is rapidly improving. There's way better software out there today. And I just wonder, you know, someday the scammers are going to upgrade and use the good stuff. Let me demonstrate. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to improve this whole scam attempt. Are you ready?