Jack Savoretti

Of course.

To try not to... I think when I was really young and I went on them, I would try to be very serious and whatever.

Yeah.

And nothing comes... You sort of just disappear.

No one wants you to be serious.

No one wants really... Yeah, it doesn't really work.

I'm talking about care, but hang out with them.

Going on tour.

No, the dogs, we have a lovely neighbour who basically moves in and stays with them.

And the dogs are almost as happy, if not happier, because they just get 100% of their attention.

You can imagine.

Sometimes a dog is hiding from the chaos.

But no, it's all good.

Well, so now what we do, like the one thing that I've really tried to bring in is reminding the kids where they're from.

So it's about spending time in Italy.

Yeah.

And we always do like now rather than.

We did a few, I remember when sort of my career started doing okay and we had kids, we did the super like far long holidays, getting on a plane, going to an island, whatever.

And we were noticing that we were spending a fortune to get somewhere for like four days, two days of which was jet lag.

The other was like packing to leave again and then coming home and feeling.