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Chapter 1: What are the challenges of parenting discussed by Jack Savoretti?
Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... Archie, can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. Yep, and can you say Josh Whittacombe? No. Josh Whittacombe. No. Why? Go on. Go on. Do you want your juice? Yeah. Josh Whittacombe. Josh. Can you say it? Oh. Rody, can you say Josh Whittacombe? Yes. Uh-huh. That's close. That was close. You can have that croissant.
Croissant. Well, there we go. Scottish. Edinburgh. Yeah. Very Scottish. This is my three-year-old Archie, my one-year-old Rory. Both classic Scotch. Scotch names.
Scotch. They don't have any Scotch. I know, I know. I was joking. Sweaty sock jocks. That's what they like.
This is my three-year-old Archie, one-year-old Rory, trying to say your names. According to my mum, Archie has taken after me with his stubbornness at doing what he's asked, but I think he smashed Rob. Rory unexpectedly chimed in with Josh, even though he could only say about three words. Love the podcast. They keep me sane when I get a dog walk with a baby nap. Oh, that's a good time.
Fiona in Edinburgh.
It's so hard having a dog when you've got a baby. Get dogs after babies, not before.
Jesus. Oh, yeah. Jesus. Jesus. Jesus. So... Jack Savaretti. So good looking. Very handsome guy. Is he going to be the fittest man we've ever interviewed? Oh, no, we did David Gandy, didn't we? True. But... It's literally his job.
I know. Yeah, true. Maybe not.
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Chapter 2: How does Jack balance his music career with family life?
But nice guy. I met him on Graham Norton. Very nice guy. Savaretti. Savaretti. I think he might be plugging... Is he doing Royal... I think he's doing the Royal Albert Hall. But yeah, he's a really nice guy.
oh nice yeah yeah did you did he sit there the whole time or did he join after he played his song joined after he played his song which i always feel sorry for them because they're always like just a bit hot or yeah busy and then that's the last thing they need because they're right in the zone of performing then all of a sudden they're just there with like loads of people staring at them because yeah it's not like the other chat where like everyone takes a bit of turn it's like all on you now yeah but i i was jealous of him
Yeah? I really want to tell people that I'm half Italian and then go to Italy and drink coffee in a square.
He's got an even more Italian name than Jack Savaretti. Hello? Giovanni Edgar Charles Galletto Savaretti.
Oh, give me a couple of them names, will you, Jack? Oh! I'd love that. What's your name? My name's Gianluigi Becket. Becket. Becket. I want to go to watch Genoa play football with Jack Savaretti. Why don't you ask him? I'm going to say that to him. One, how are you so sexy? How's the music going? How are the kids? Can I come and watch Genoa play?
Perfect. Where is Genoa? Genoa. Genoa. It's Sampdoria from Genoa, aren't they? I think it's north. All the best football teams are north, aren't they, generally? I think so. Apart from Napoli.
I think in Italy, that's where like the posh... Because the money's up north. The posh money's up north in Italy. They look down on the south. And they look down on the boot. Yeah, they do. Let's get into Italian politics with Jack Savaree. Jack Savaretti, welcome to the podcast. Thanks for having me, guys. Now, obviously, we're just all getting on so well that we just started chatting.
I didn't realise we'd started. No. That's how good we are.
It's been a great show.
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Chapter 3: What parenting lessons has Jack learned from his children?
Somebody had abandoned her. She's a beautiful cat. I'm not a cat person, but she's a beautiful cat. I'm a cat person. And you've got four dogs. It took her six months. I built her like a little chalet meow meow, I call it. It's like a little cat house outside. It's like a little log cabin for cats. Oh, wow. And so she started staying in there.
And now that it's sort of spring and we have the doors open, she started to sort of come in. And the dogs aren't bothering her? The dogs are a little bit scared of her. What dogs you got? I've got a Border Collie, and then we have three Cocker Poos. Cocker sort of spangles. Oh, so small dogs. No, the Border Collie's quite big. She's quite big. She's sort of my soulmate.
Size. Massive. Not that big.
Big for a dog, though. Big for a dog. Too big for a dog. We just sort of walk everywhere together. She's my soulmate. And then the other three are just pretty hectic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you haven't got favourites then with the dogs too much?
Yeah, I definitely have a favourite with the dogs.
So you had the border collie first and then the cockapoos came second?
No, we had a cockapoo and then she had puppies and then we fell in love with all the puppies so we kept them, which was a great idea. And then the border collie actually belonged to a friend of mine but he had a few troubles with drugs, substances and all that and ended up sort of in hospital and this dog was just sort of abandoned. And I ended up going to take her. And she was pretty nuts.
She was living in a pretty wild environment. Oh, God. It wasn't the best idea. We had just had our third daughter. She was like six months. And I took this dog home. And I realized I probably can't keep this dog. But actually, border collies are unreal with their intelligence. And she just read the room like nobody's business.
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Chapter 4: How does Jack's Italian heritage influence his parenting style?
She learned from YouTube. I mean, a lot of people are going to get angry at us because this isn't the way to do it. My aunt, a dog breeder, was furious at us for doing this. But we did it out of love. But did you know she was pregnant? Yeah. Were you trying to get the dog pregnant? We were because my wife and I had two different midlife crises. It's all coming out very quickly. Yeah, it's fine.
We're good at this, aren't we? Keep going, Jack.
But basically... Cry when you want.
It's going to happen anyway. No, but basically my wife's midlife crisis was really amplified by her fear of our dog dying. That sort of became Maggie, who was the original, like the dog we've had for, now she's 15, 16. Blimey.
So she was very connected to this dog.
Very connected. And she was like, while she still can, let's breed her so that we'll always have Maggie in our lives in some shape or form. It was very romantic, but it was madness. And yeah, she turned into sort of Florence Nightingale. delivering these dogs. Me and the kids downstairs hearing screams. So how many were delivered? Three. Kittens? That's how bad a job she did.
Never do this at home. No, three showed up, but a friend of ours was living, was experiencing something terrible, so she took one of them. And the other two, we fell in love. We were all arguing with which one we were going to keep. Oh, yeah, it's only going one way, isn't it?
I'm trying to get my head right. What was your midlife crisis then? Because if hers was breeding the dog... My midlife crisis was making this album. LAUGHTER
That's how I dealt with it. Let's make another album.
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Chapter 5: What are Jack's thoughts on raising bilingual children?
What do I do with all of this? And then I also realised I could throw a grenade into my whole life here. Like, what would happen if I just completely flipped this upside down? And just that realisation was terrifying that that is possible. Like, one decision, one choice can flip this all down.
I hadn't really thought about that from now.
Now that's never leaving. I'll just braid your dog instead. Do you have any thoughts on that, Rob? No, not until you put it in my head, but you're right. I have thoughts sometimes when I'm doing live TV or live radio and just think, I could say something awful now. And it would all go wrong. And it's all over like that. Almost like Thanos.
Yeah, the naivety of you disappears and you suddenly realise your choices matter. They've gotten you this far as well. You sort of give yourself a pat on the back because you're like, actually, I've made some great choices. So it was a positive thing as well as a confusing thing. Well, it was once I realised, wow, I've made great choices. I was like, all my choices do matter. Yeah, that's it.
It's pressure to carry on the right choice. Once you realise the value of your art.
You will be able to find a problem in a chilled situation.
It's great for somebody. It feels like a waste of money this birthday. It feels like a lot of money spent on quite a negative experience.
No, I'm... You've ruined Portofino for me now.
I've built a lot of strings for that party. I could never have afforded that party. Why... I was reading your Wikipedia name.
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Chapter 6: How does Jack handle the chaos of a busy household?
Sounds like a criminal from the 50s. Jack Sav used to work with the Krays. To be fair, Jack Sav already sounds like a criminal. Yeah, Jack the Hat. So that sort of midlife crisis realisation, then you wrote the album off the back of that basically. Is that what was the motivator? It didn't manifest in anything else other than the album with like decisions of... No, not really.
I mean, it had just come from a period where I had lost my father. We'd just had a third child sort of thing. We were coming through that, which was also a shock to the system. Because let's just say Celeste, number three, but Celeste, it was a surprise. It was a very much like... We were sort of...
out on the other side six six year gap yeah 10 year with the eldest oh god yes that's a long yeah it was a long time and we were starting to find ourselves again and starting to just it was just things were changing my wife and i were starting to hang out a lot more yeah of course yeah hence hence what happened too much time together
it's happening again um but i mean it was the best thing that happened to us and i'm gonna throw that cliche out there because it is oh of course it yeah it's just but it can be a shock at the time it was a real shock my wife was very happy she was really happy it was a bit like the same again i mean she might not like me saying this but it was a bit with her midlife crisis the same thing with maggie the dog like keeping her alive this was another thing yeah because it's
Yeah, she was having her own moment of questioning time and is there time for one more? Could I do this again? Should we have another one? She was very much in that mentality. I really wasn't. I mean, it was just during COVID as well. And like it was during the lockdown where finally the world did stop for me. I mean, I hate saying that because it wasn't a great time.
for people but for me personally it was really nice to stop and to not have that sense of guilt for stopping yes like I'd always been worried it was taken out of your control exactly why that somebody else was doing what I should have been doing and all that it was like no everything stopped so you can actually turn off now and when that happened I was like I was tired I realized I was actually really tired and when this so when we got pregnant again I was like oh man
I've got to go back to work.
This is going to be tough. But luckily, it's actually been the best source of inspiration for that. Yeah. For both of us, for my wife and I. And what does she do? She's an artist. She was an actress. Yeah. And then during she's always been an incredible artist. Yeah. But she had focused mainly on her acting and done some amazing films, worked with Tim Burton, Francois Ozon, done some great stuff.
But then during lockdown again. there was a real, she realized, I don't want to go back out there. I think she had just had her time. Getting the job and being rejected was becoming more. I think it's horrible. It's brutal acting. That becomes kind of the craft, surviving that.
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Chapter 7: What are Jack's views on the impact of fame on family life?
And that was becoming more of her... She was becoming quite competitive. And I think the craft was taking a back seat. And that's when she was like, this is not good. She didn't like that feeling. It was no longer about the craft of acting. It was the craft of the audition, getting the job, which is part of it, don't get me wrong. I think that's when she was just done with that.
And so she wanted to, I think, really master...
a craft again yeah creation and art was there suddenly she was in charge she was the one that could just make things come to life from nothing and she's a ridiculously prolific wonderful and successful artist so that that was an interesting switch for both of us as well how does she find you going back on tour then because obviously i'd locked down home together Really?
I think for multiple reasons. At first it means I'm still working, which is a nice thing. But also I think we've always had that in our relationship. We've been together 22 years. So that distance makes the heart grow fonder. It keeps us incredibly like, you know, the choice of being in love rather than it's easy to be in love when everything's hunky-dory.
But to choose it when there's a struggle and all that. I think that the touring and being away from each other makes you feel like you're sort of fighting and holding onto something again. And it does, it is incredibly bonding for us. Do you find that Rob?
Well, it's different for comedians, isn't it? Because we go to like Doncaster for the night and drive home.
I'm not exactly.
No, but with music, when you tour abroad, you tour abroad a lot more and you're away for six weeks nonstop where comedy really is. I'll be back and I'll do the school run, but then I'm going to Leeds.
Yeah, but I have to be honest, me personally have been able to build much more of that. Oh, that's good. Not by choice, by lack of success maybe also. I don't really have, like I'm never away from, like two weeks is kind of the limit. Yeah, I can't do any more than that, especially with the kids. Totally. I don't like it. I don't like what happens. I get too detached.
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Chapter 8: What future plans does Jack have for his music and family?
i don't know if this is great i still go well i'm going oh yeah and then i go to walk out the park and then almost make them believe they've been left the classic it's a classic and then they end up bottling it and go no i'll come as well dad so i'm a walk out not looking at them turn the corner hope for the best okay do you know what my my tactic is by the way for the record i'm not actually leaving them they're in full sight the whole time but i can't let them see me what i do yeah
it's bad i'll buy them off with ice cream rob i know yeah because everyone's a winner then yeah they won't finish it i'll get ice cream as well so it's a win win win to be fair that walking out the park things only new as they've got older but what i would do when they're younger just pick them up and carry them out let's see what gemini thinks is the best way to deal with it
So all I do, get my phone out. Yeah. Click on the Gemini app. Here we go. I'll just ask the question. Could you settle a debate for us? When your kids are in the park at the weekend, the play park, and they won't leave, what's the best way to get them out? Is it to carry them over your shoulder or is it to buy them off with ice cream?
Um, that's a classic parent's dilemma. Both of these methods can definitely have a practical effect, but maybe not the best long-term. Carrying them off can feel like you're taking control, but it doesn't really teach them how to move on to the next thing, and buying them off with ice cream could get you into a pattern where they always expect a reward for leaving.
A lot of people find success with giving warnings like a five-minute warning before we leave, or making the transition fun, like let's race to the car.
Race to the car is a great idea. Yes, that's better than ours. Yeah. Okay, let's try something else here. This is a situation I get myself in quite a lot. Hello, Gemini. Basically, all I've got is some plain pasta. I've got some pesto. I've got a couple of wilted carrots and a pack of mints.
Help me create some sort of hidden veg recipe that I can cook in 20 minutes and the kids are actually going to eat.
You can quickly grate the carrots and mince them with the meat. Fry the mince, add the grated carrots and mix in your pesto with the cooked pasta. The finely grated carrot will blend in with the mince and the pesto will add a strong flavour the kids might love. Does that sound like something they'd eat?
Sounds like something I'd eat. And I'm vegetarian. You've got two sold guys here, Gemini. That's a great idea. Thank you. That's really good. Really helpful. Great, yeah. Make it look like mince. And they're gobbling up carrot and they don't even know. Exactly, Rob. Until they start seeing in the dark, then they'll be suspicious. Someone's been sneaking carrot in my dinner.
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